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So, What Is Anatolian?

Monday, Nov 9, 2020
John Elcik –First, a shoutout to my Turkish cousins Sabri and Vladimir. An explanation follows…
My brother Jeff took a 23andMe DNA test with interesting results. Through the 5th generation, our known ancestors came from the Czech Republic and Austria to the United States in the late 1800s. But our family background is more diverse than I ever knew.
Quoting 23andMe, “You most likely had a third-great-grandparent, fourth-great-grandparent, fifth-great-grandparent, sixth-great-grandparent, or seventh-great- (or greater) grandparent who was 100% Anatolian. This person was likely born between 1700 and 1820.”
So what is Anatolian?
Anatolia, Turkish Anadolu, also called Asia Minor, the peninsula of land today, constitutes the Asian portion of Turkey.
I have referred to my Turkish friends on Facebook as “Surname buddies” as we share the Elcik surname. In the eBook that I am writing called “My Cousins,” they are cousins. Wow! That’s nice.
Cheryl Heath – Looks like we are a very interesting family.

Pamela Elcik – You explained this very well… I married into an awesome family!! Thank you Johnnie for doing all this research and sharing it with everyone!! I love you sweetheart!!

Martin Michael Adams – John, was Richard your uncle?
John Elcik – Yes. I’m also working on the Family tree and an eBook to include the Adams family. Send an email to me at johnelcik@msn.com to get access and updates.
Martin Michael Adams – What Adams family?
John Elcik – My maternal grandmother was Charlotte Mae Adams born 26 AUG 1908 in Denmark, Maine, and died 25 FEB 1985 in Meriden, Connecticut. She was married to Clyde Raymond Skillin and their daughter Jacqueline Skillin was my mother. Grandma Adams’s father was Tracy Lee Adams, Sr. and her mother Edith May Purrington. She had a sister Edith May Adams and a brother Charles Harry Adams, Sr.
Eugene Elcik – Wow! that really makes me a mongrel.
John Elcik – Eugene Elcik, we too are mongrels. We like both the human and the dog variety. In the latter category, we have two “designer” dogs. Both are a combination of Chihuahua and rat terrier. Look for pictures to follow.
Eugene Elcik – Thank you, John; I’m waiting for your book. I appreciate your hard work. We Elcik’s have an interesting background, and certainly a proud one. My background includes french, also on my mother’s side. My great-grandmother married a seaman from Spain. That makes things more complex, however, that’s here-say from the family on my mother’s side, all have passed away. Thus, I can’t factually confirm that, only by my brother, Andrew II. We proudly have darker skin, much like a summer tan. Again, my thanks.
Eugene Elcik, My Cousins, is an eBook, an epistolary story told entirely in online communications. Mostly told through email, there are Facebook and LinkedIn communications also shared. It is less about dialog (we do have fun) and more about information sharing. Frankly, I have over 400 posts on a WordPress website. The thought was that Beth Gamache and I would document our journey creating the Elcik family tree, etc. I recognize that only a hardcore genealogist may want to read it. I have side projects: A historical essay (with several companion pieces), a virtual cemetery, a photo gallery, and the family tree itself. There is no end in sight. That being said, I will publish on a flash drive what I have on May 3, 2021. This will be distributed to about 25 people. You made the shortlist.  Our real goal is to inspire other family members to get involved.
Which of the Elcik family was your dad? Did he have a brother Richard??
Richard was my father’s only brother. The girls outnumbered the two of them. Dad was John Paul Elcik, III. My son is J.P. ,V.
  • Richard A. Elcik (1931–2016)
  • John Paul Elcik III (1928–2011)
  • Madelyn R. Elcik (1920–2005)
  • Gertrude Dorothy Elcik (1921–2002)
  • Mary D. Elcik (1923–1998)
  • Eleanor H. Elcik (1925–1956)

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Re: Summary of Research Findings

Sun 12/13/2020 12:39 PM

Joseph [Elcik], 
As you know, I’m working on genealogy brick wall scenarios related to the Elcik surname.
 
You could be of great help in two ways. 
 
First, by any chance, were you able to find a copy of the family tree, and could you share it? I’m writing an eBook (My Cousins) with Beth Gamache about genealogy research, and it would be wonderful if I could get access before that happens. Our target to publish is May 3rd, my birthday.
 
Second, it would be helpful to consider or get a close male relative to consider taking a DNA test and sharing the results. There are sales on DNA testing kits by Ancestry.com and MyHeritage.com during the holiday season.  I have taken both tests myself with the hope of using DNA to establish the link between our two families. 
 
The following describes in more detail where I am with the research. 
 
Two families came to America in the late 1888s or early 1900s. Today both families share the Elcik surname, Slovak heritage, and a Catholic background. Back then, the surnames were Elsik and Ilcik.
  • John Elsik (1866-1941) was married to Mary Pelcarsky (1875-1936). John immigrated to America in 1891, and Mary immigrated in 1896.
  • John Ilcik (1886-1982) was married to Mary Jeho Zena Jonek (1887-1951). John immigrated to America in 1905, and Mary immigrated a year later in 1906
I believe that there is a family relationship linking John Elsik to John Ilcik.
Finding the link has proven difficult as the church records in Europe most likely were destroyed in World War II.  
John Elsik (1866-1941) is my Great Grandfather, and Jon Ilcik is part of your bloodline.  
One possibility for finding the link between the two families is through a DNA test between two males, one from each family.
I’m looking to identify someone from the Ilick family who has or is willing to take a DNA test and share data.  
I am hopeful that the inexpensive (less than $100) testing will work. Ancestry.com is currently offering a 40% discount on its $99 test, and MyHeritage has a similar price for their DNA test. I have been budgeting for the best option. When you seek a match between two living men, that is a Y-111 test. Admittedly, this is expensive at $250 for each participant. But I think we can avoid that. 
This is a chance to make history within the Elcik family. If you know someone who might be interested, please contact me. I’m looking for a hero. ?
John
P.S. I know for sure that there is one connection between the two Elcik families. George Elcik (in the 1920 Census) married my Uncle’s sister Anna Gamache.  I this there is more to find. 
Warmest regards,
John
John Paul Elcik, IV
Fort Myers, Florida
johnelcik@msn.com
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DNA Coaching

Wed 1/6/2021 3:02 PM
Judy and Beth,

My Genealogy Coaches

I’m writing to both of you as you both are my coaches.  To introduce you to each other:
  • Judy has been my DNA information source, and we hope to solidify the link between our families through DNA after her father’s DNA linked us.
  • Beth is my co-author of the MyCousins eBook.  Beth is also married to John Gamache (Jack), my 1rst cousin.

DNA Data Processed

My DNA kit from Ancestry.com has been processed.  It may take a couple of days for search engines to access as I just today made the MyCousins Family Tree public. This was necessary to enable search engines.  Public access still protects the privacy of living individuals.
I don’t think this solves my two brick walls. At least not yet. DNA can’t clarify the family relationship between Judy and myself or between John Elsik and John Ilcik. Not yet. I plan to download the raw data and submit it to other sites to improve my chances of doing both.
I also will be getting data from MyHeritage for comparison.
Todate, 6 People with DNA matches are on the Family Tree.
  • John Gamache (my paternal 1st cousin); Ancestry says 1st–2nd Cousin; Shared DNA: 1,099 cm across 30 segments.
  • Cheryl (Heath) Elcik (my paternal 1st cousin); Ancestry says 1st–2nd Cousin; Shared DNA: 790 cm across 31 segments.
  • Constance (Akerley) Lewis (my paternal 1st cousin); Ancestry says 1st–2nd Cousin; Shared DNA: 787 cm across 28 segments.
  • Scott Gebro (my 1st cousin, 1x removed); Ancestry says 1st–2nd Cousin; Shared DNA: 365 cm across 17 segments.
  • Heather Adams (my 2nd cousin); Ancestry says 2nd–3rd Cousin; Shared DNA: 238 cm across 12 segments.
  • Sue Elcik (my 2nd cousin); Ancestry says 2nd–3rd Cousin; Shared DNA: 232 cm across 11 segments.

This data is not as helpful as it could be as the Trees and the DNA test have not been linked by their owners.  This includes you, Beth. Lol.

Ethnicity Estimates

Meanwhile, this is what Ancestry.com gives as an Ethnicity Estimate.
  • Eastern Europe & Russia: 43%
  • England & Northwestern Europe: 20%
  • France: 18%
  • Scotland: 12%
  • Baltics: 6%
  • Ireland: 1%
  • Additional Communities: Southeastern Quebec French Settlers
Eastern Europe and Russia cover a lot of territories. Two subgroups actually:
  • Poland, Slovakia, Hungary & Romania
  • Eastern Hungary, Eastern Slovakia, Northwest Romania & Western Ukraine
My Great-grandfather’s birthplace on US Census records was Austria. This changes to Czechoslovakia in his obituary. The reason for this change is in the history of Europe, which I am researching.
Bottom line, this is all I know at the moment. I’ll keep you posted.
John, IV
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MyHeritage Message

Sun 1/17/2021 3:38 AM
Beth,
I sent the following to Earl using MyHeritage messenger.
John, IV
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Earl,

This is Beth’s friend John Elcik, IV.
First, thank you very much for all the help you have given Beth Gamache and me. You are a rockstar when it comes to genealogy. Wow!
I was both surprised and pleased to see that MyHeritage says we have a DNA connection on top of everything.  We both have individuals with Ames, Hudon, Kinney, Libby, Williams, and Ward surnames in our trees. I, however, have yet to find the individuals connecting us on our family trees. I’ll keep on trying. Someday, all will be revealed.

Also, if you ever want access to the MyCousins Family tree, please ask. It would be a pleasure to share.