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Karkos Kronicles

September 26, 2017 
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Karkos Kronicles

October 15, 2018
I was flipping through my genealogy program last night and realized with a shock that I hadn’t put my Mom’s adopted mother’s death date, nor my Mom’s death date in it. And, of course, I can’t find her adopted mom’s obit online or her husband’s, but I know I have the newspaper ones somewhere in my genealogy stuff.
For 7 years straight, I did my family’s genealogy research in between work and volunteer work. Since then, I’ve been doing it off and on and still finding stuff I didn’t have or stuff from cousins I met via Facebook (I’ve really got to get my Karkos Kronicles back online.). And all I started with were memories of my Dad.
For instance, my wife’s mother’s ancestors came from Russia, and my Dad’s ancestors from far eastern Slovakia, near Russia. Fate or coincidence? I didn’t marry until I was 41. It was her second marriage.
I know we all go back to Adam and Eve, but I’m more interested in filling in the gaps and learning about our stories and history. Still, Google has the current world population at 7.2 billion. That’s A LOT of sex since Adam and Eve.
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Beth’s Ancestry Journey

July 22, 2020, 08:55 PM

John, IV,

I haven’t heard back from George Karkos but will keep you informed about what I find out. I have a 2nd cousin who lives in Bowdoin, ME (I never knew he existed), which is about 5 miles from where we live. When I started my Ancestry journey, I found him by accident after visiting a cemetery in that town from a poster with his name and phone # on it. I called him, we met at his house, and I discovered his mother had done some family genealogy all handwritten. That was before Ancestry existed and before I joined Ancestry. He let me bring home the album his mother created, and I took off from there.
I joined Ancestry after that meeting and spent the next 2 years working on my family genealogy. I started the Gamache, Elcik, Byrus genealogy during that time as well. It’s been a work in progress, to say the least. Now with your help, I’m filling in the missing pieces for the Elcik, Byrus family.

I’m sure Terry would love to see the picture of Annie.

I’m calling it a night—lots going on the next couple of days. We’ll talk soon.

Beth

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Re: The Elcik Family Tree

July 24, 2020, 12:00 PM

John, IV,

I love the joke (if you will) about the mother, father, and daughter. Maybe that explains all our DNA and why some of us are messed up more than others! Lol…

You, dear John, have much more computer experience and expertise than I do. I’m just a hacker trying to figure all this out. I think I’m doing pretty good considering my limited knowledge. Ancestry is my only tool other than people I have been fortunate enough to know personally plus visiting many cemeteries in the area. This all piques my interest and keeps me up nights wondering who’s who. Your help with the Elcik family has been tremendous, and I’m so happy we’ve connected here.

There’s a family in Lisbon Falls, last name Karkos, BUT his mother was Annie Elcik, your grandfather John’s sister whom I know well. I’ve meant to talk to him because I understand he has some knowledge of the Elcik ancestry. I just called him, left a message, and hopefully, he’ll call back, and I’ll be able to meet with him. I Will let you know what happens. I have a few minutes and will try to “fix” some of my mistakes with the John P. Elciks. Wish me luck.

I looked at and copied the documents you sent. Thank you so much for this info. I love the one you wrote about the pronunciation of your surname. I’m convinced you’re a genius!!! I hope that doesn’t make your head swell!!!

Beth

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Re: The Elcik Family Tree

July 24, 2020, 02:27 PM

Beth,

First, I think you are awesome. What you have done is incredible. Your work ethic in getting so much done is incredible. It, too, must be DNA. 🙂 I had a Facebook conversation with Janet (Lucas) about her parents and how I remember them as hard working. It is nice to know our children are inheriting these genes.

Karkos is a name I know from my research. I will eMail you something about him as soon as I find it. 🙂 Please let me know when you get the email. I tried adding a picture at the last minute. Its file is larger than some eMail program support. 🙂 

One more question? Can you find out if Annie’s parents came from Parhovjani S, Czechoslovakia? What can she or Terry tell us about how the name would have been spelled in Europe? Elsik? Or something else? You have access to a goldmine of information. Awesome! You are making my day, week, month, year… and more!

Beth, I love the information about our family that we find out in our research. But truthfully, without the software tools, this would have been too much for me to handle. You are the real expert. Interviewing to collect data. That is over the moon. I’m taking a bulldozer approach with software tools, and I feel like the proverbial bull in a china shop. I hope not to break anything.

I’m coming to a “radical” opinion about some of this. I’m beginning to see what we do as a project to PRESERVE FAMILY HISTORY first, and as an ancestry research project second, if at all. Could this shift in goal get us more support? I’m giving thought to ways we can collaborate more. I’m getting so much from this. THANK YOU!

I’m willing to bet that Terry would love to have a copy of Annie’s photo. She is about 5 years old. 🙂

John, IV

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John Elsik Had a Younger Brother Joseph


Tue, Jul 28, 2020, at 3:09 AM

Beth,

Please help me by confirming a discovery I made last night.

I think I have proof that John Elcik (Elsik), Sr., my great-grandfather, had a younger brother Joseph.

If so, this answers the question I put on the research agenda about where there siblings. There was at least one.

My evidence is in the 1910 United States Federal Census:

  • The men are just three years apart in age.
  • Both immigrated from Austria.
  • Both settled in Durham, Androscoggin, Maine.

But the clincher for me is that both men spell our surname “Elsik” for themselves while spelling their children’s names “Elcik.”

It can’t be a coincidence.

What do you think? Could Karkos also confirm for us?

John

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Tue 7/28/2020 3:56 PM

John,

You may be right about that. I’m not convinced yet and will continue to research. I just talked to Eugene Elcik, 26 Mar 1933, his wife Lorraine Lefrancois, 5 Jun 1935. He had a brother, Andrew. His father was Andrew Elcik 1901-1950, mother Jennie Walker-I don’t know the Bday. They are both buried in the same cemetery as Jack’s parents.

He did tell me there was a Joseph Elcik but didn’t know who he’s connected to, and it’s not him. He remembers your father, Jack’s mother, and their siblings. He’s an author and has written several books, including one on Shiloh, and is currently writing the 2nd book on Shiloh. I’ve read his 1st one, very interesting.

Thank you for the explanations about Family Tree Maker. I’ll be working on that later today. I’m always afraid to try something I don’t understand. I believe with your help; I can achieve more in less time. I’m willing to give it a try!! I have also talked to Pam Lizotte. Her dad is George Karkos, whose mother is Annie Elcik. She’s at work right now, and we’ll talk later. She has all the births and deaths of Annie’s siblings. My head is spinning with all this!!

Beth