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Facebook Chat – John Elcik (Florida) and John Elcik (New York)

July 15, 2020, through July 19, 2020

July 15, 2020, 7:20 AM

John Elcik (Florida)  – Would you or a member of the family be interested in some ancestry research I’m doing? I have a real mystery to solve and could use another person’s opinion. It could be fun. I can provide additional details, and there is no obligation after you see the question and analysis I have done. Warmest regards, John P.S. if you prefer email for this, my address is johnelcik@msn.com

July 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

John Elcik (New York) – Hi John. I would be interested! I know there must be some relation between us since the last name Elcik is not common and our relatives came from Lisbon Falls. If there’s anything I can do to help with the research or anything you want to show me, probably the best way to reach me is at my work email since I am always at work, my email at work is John.Elcik@dfa.state.ny.us. Also, I don’t mind you using the instant messenger on Facebook.

July 18, 2020, 7:32 AM

My grandfather Andrew Elcik was born in Lisbon Falls on a farm in 1911. He eventually settled in New York City and raised his family in Queens, New York. My father just recently passed away, was also named John Elcik. My father’s brother Andrew Elcik is still alive and lives in Plainview.  I know there is a very direct relationship here.

John Elcik (Florida) – I’m going to use the email address as I don’t know how to attach documents to the messenger. ? I’m sending two emails initially, but please don’t feel you need to respond right away other than a short note to say you get them. I agree we are related, but I’ve been years in coming up with my theory on why it has been so difficult to prove. The first email will have five documents. It would be beneficial to read them in the order I created them, so I have given each a number. The second email will be an invitation to access the Family Tree on Ancestory.com. They offer free 15-day trials. I’m looking forward to this. Enjoy!

John Elcik (New York) –  Great, sounds good, John ?

John Elcik (Florida) – Can you read your work email from home? If not, I sent a new update that may invalidate much of my work, depending on whether it was your grandfather or an older relative that went through Ellis Island. If it was your grandfather, It may invalidate my theory that your grandparents arrived here in the early 1900s. Your grandfather would have come sometime in the 1940-50s. My hope will then ride on a Europen connection between the families. More difficult to prove but just as real to me. ?

Having read more about the economic and political turmoil in Europe, it makes sense if family ties were forged before we got here. There probably were a dozen or more “waves” of immigration over a hundred years. I got caught up in the close timing between two of the arrivals, just 15 years apart. And there is also the Lisbon Falls connection.

John Elcik (New York) – My great grandparents arrived in the early 1900s. I know that for fact and then settled in Lisbon Falls, Maine. John, according to the tree, you are confusing my dad as my grandfather! My father is John Elcik, and he was born in 1943 died in 2018 my grandfather was Andrew Elcik, born in Lisbon Falls, Maine 1911, died in 1995. I was born in 1965, and I am also John Elcik, as you know! Since you are in your 60’s, your generation is somewhere between my dad and me!

John Elcik (Florida) – I have a lot more info to send you, But I have to get organized, and I will forward it to you. I have access to my work email at home, but I’m not going to be home much this weekend. I may not get to look at it until Monday! There are a lot of things you had correct. My great grandfather John Elcik did die in 1962, so you have that right!

John Elcik (New York) – Because of a lack of work up in Maine during the Great Depression, my grandfather Andrew Elcik came to NYC in about 1932. He settled in Queens, NY! He married an Italian American, Jeannie Pascarella! My grandparents had two children (my dad) John Elcik, born in 1943, and my uncle Andrew Elcik born in 1941. Both my dad and uncle settled on Long Island, where we remain! I have a sister Karen (Elcik) McDonald, born in 1968! My uncle Andrew had three children; Christine was born in 1965, Andrew born in 1967, and Jacqueline was born in 1970.

July 19, 2020, 3:05 AM

John Elcik (Florida) – Curiosity killed the cat; satisfaction brought it back. Can you point me to a relatively current picture? Who is Nicholas?

John Elcik (New York) – Nicholas is my son born in 2001, and Katherine is my daughter born in 2005. I have two children, and my wife is Deborah Elcik (Polak ) Born 1968! Whose recent picture would you like me to send to you ???

John Elcik (Florida) – I think I have been confusing Nicholas and you. Silly, I know. The pictures of John J. got me confused. I believe now you are the guy with glasses, and you have Nicolas’s image on the cover of Facebook? If so, I think you are about 15 years my junior? I was born in 1952.

John Elcik (New York) – I am the older guy with glasses. My son Nick is young, only 19! More confusing is I am John Elcik, and my dad was John J Elcik. No Sr. or Jr. stuff to worry about.

John Elcik (Florida) – My son is the V. Tremendous social pressure! J.P., as we call him, is getting married this year. Talk about pressure. ?

John Elcik (New York) – Wow, congrats I got married older, so my kids are still pretty young.

John Elcik (Florida) – This explains the reaction to my brother’s picture. I thought I was talking to glasses until I saw the cover photo. ? I’ve got to go. Pam is calling. Talk another time again. Have a great day!

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Exactly How Are We Related?


Fri 7/17/2020 9:57 AM

Good morning John,

Thank You. I got all your Emails. I am interested, for sure, in seeing exactly how we are related. I am at work, so I will have to look at everything more at home. However, one of the first things I did immediately notice is that my great grandfather also worked at the Pejepscot Paper Mill to supplement his income as a farmer. Before he came to NYC in 1932, my grandfather Andrew Elcik also worked briefly at the paper mill. I hope you are well and I will be in touch.

John Elcik (NY)

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Elcik New York History


Sat 7/18/2020 12:58 PM

Hello John,

My grandfather Andrew Elcik was born here in Lisbon Falls, Maine in 1911 ( died 1995 on Long Island ), and it was my great grandfather John Ilcik who came here thru Ellis Island in the early 1900s (don’t have an exact date but early 1900’s NOT 1940’s or 50’s. All they know is it was spelled “Ilcik” in Europe (Austria-Hungarian empire what is now the Czech Republic). It was changed by mistake at Ellis Island when they just put it down wrong (not on Purpose). We are Slovak and Not Czech, and my grandfather Andrew and Great grandfather spoke the language.

As I shared with you on Facebook, my father is John Elcik, born in 1943 in Queens, NY, and died in 2018. You have the correct year of 1962, when I believe my great grandfather died. If you did not see it on Facebook, my grandfather Andrew Elcik came to NYC between 1929 – 1932 because he could not find work at the paper mill anymore due to the great depression. He ended up working for Bryers Ice cream for 40 years. He married Jeannie Pascarella around 1939 and had two sons Andrew Elcik born in 1941, and my dad John Elcik born in 1943.

My uncle is still alive but hazy about the family’s past. I wish my dad John Elcik was alive because he could help solve this mystery. My uncle Andrew Elcik had three children Christine born 1965, Andrew born 1967, and Jaqueline, born 1970 or 71. We have pictures of my great grandparents and grandfather from Lisbon Falls, which I will eventually scan to you. We will eventually figure out the direct link.

More to come.

John Elcik (NY)