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DNA Match with Judith Spivak

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06-17-2011 through 09-11-2011

Judith Spivak – Hello, Our DNA matches. My name is Judith Spivak. I live in California, born in Connecticut, Please respond. It should be interesting.

John – Judith, My apologies for taking so long to respond. Your communication came at a time that a lot was going on. In addition to the ancestory.com website, I maintain a family website. It would be a pleasure to provide you access. I need your email address to do so. The DNA testing is something I did for my son and daughter: J.P. and Michelle. All of us and my wife Pam have a profile on LinkedIn. Go to www.linkedin.com and search for the last name, “Elcik.” We all live in Fort Myers, Florida. Warmest regards, John John P. Elcik, IV

Judith – John It is exciting that we have a 12/12 match. Have you had this match before? The Y chromosomes in my family are limited. My father had three daughters, his brother never married, and as we know of “no children.” My grandfather was Tomos Spivak from Poland, and he was an only son. He came to this country in 1911 as a single man, getting processed through Ellis Island. If you are interested in finding out the genetic connection, we would have to do more tests. My father died in November 2009 at the age of 91 yrs old. I still have DNA from a toothbrush and hearing aids. He was born and raised in Connecticut. I brought him to California to live with my husband and me when he could no longer take care of himself. If you are interested, then we could start the process. If not, then it is not a problem. Sincerely, Judy Spivak Lakkis

John – You are the first ever to contact us regarding any match. I don’t yet know what a 12/12 match is or what the next step would entail. I’ll have to investigate. My best family website is a SharePoint site that requires I provide permission for each email address that accesses it. If you offer yours, I’ll let you in. Meanwhile, www.elcik.org has information anyone can view. We have long thought that most of our extended family originated from Slovakia. 🙂 Warmest Regards, John johnelcik@msn.com or jelcik@edulytics.com

Judith – Well, a 12/12 match means that we are related to how far back depends on more testing. It means we share a common male ancestor. We need to do a 37 or even better, a 67 marker test. I will be sending in my father’s hearing aids to Family Tree DNA. FTDNA for short. It will take approx 6-8 weeks for results. DNA Solutions did the 12/12 ancestry markers in the first test. Then I plugged the markers in Ancestry.com, and your name was a perfect 12/12 match. You can send your DNA at Family Tree DNA also for the 37/67 marker test. It is where we shall begin to find out who our common male ancestor is. My email address is judylakkis@yahoo.com, as I forgot to give it to you last time. My grandfather originated from Poland, lived in the Carpathian Mountains and Austria. I can show pictures and tell you more. Sincerely Judy Lakkis

Judith – 06/26/11, Good News, The Paternal Test we had done has 46 Markers. Could you get retested with familytreeDNA.com? The reason being, if we get the same test with the same lab, we leave it to them to find our ancestors. They will not take another’s lab results. They start with the 12 markers, then upgrade. It is about making money, but I am very interested in finding out how we connect. And one more question, I thought you were from Fort Myers, not Wellington, Florida?? Who is John Paul Elcik, IV from Wellington, Florida?? [That is me.] I have sent my dad’s hearing aids, and I have paid extra for the extraction. Sincerely, Judy

Judith – 08/12/11, Hello John, I am still waiting for more Y markers from FTDNA. They are very slow. Just to let you know. I wanted the ancestry markers for a family reunion in September, but it seems that I have to accept disappointment. J. Lakkis

Judith – 09/03/11, Hi. I have checked with experts from FTDNA, and I did have to increase 2 of the markers to make it a marker standard with SMGF… DYS442 +5… and GATA H4 +1 point. That leaves three matching markers. My family would like to pay the $159.00 for you to do the 37 Y marker testing from FTDNA. We are very curious to see how we are related. Please send me your address, and I will purchase the swab kit. And we will soon know. Sincerely, Judy

 

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Hearing Aids Useful for Ancestry Research

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Tuesday, July 7, 2020, 10:10 AM

Hi John,

FTDNA states that they don’t have a record of my father’s Y DNA, so I tried to search my old files (copies), and I must have disposed of them as FTDNA did. (see attachment).

My father passed in 2009, so I use his hearing aids to get the DNA. FTDNA wanted more money, so they deleted what I DID have. Too much!!!!!!!!!!!

Ten years ago, I was very interested, but now I have lost interest.

I checked my autosomal DNA, and your name did not appear, so I guess we are a very distant relationship.

Have fun now that you have the time.

DNA is fascinating

Best Wishes

Judy

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Volunteering for Find a Grave


Wed 7/8/2020 9:43 PM

Hello John,

Yes, I was a volunteer for “Find a Grave,” and I loved it. I know every cemetery within a 30-mile radius. I had to leave cause I had trouble with the Catholic Church. Even wrote to the Arch Bishop. To make a very long, long story short, The Catholic Church wanted $25.00 per location, so I use just to put the names in alphabetical order and spend a day at the cemetery. I knew every section, the dates, etc., so it was easy to find a few. The best story I have is someone from the Chicago area wanted a specific name. I found the headstone. I later received a thank you; the most gracious thank you that I ever received. The headstone was the only picture he had of his father he never knew. He treasured it. Warmed my heart. I cried.

Ah, then I was showing another man how to find the graves. Some are computer orientated, and he put “the make’ on me. I went home, trembling. Then he did some vicious things. He would take my claims, take the picture and send it to the person claiming it. I would come home, download the pictures to post, and they would already be there.
He would harass me through emails and phone. I had my husband step in.

Then with the Catholic Cemetery, some other man went and took pictures and emailed me to delete mine, “cause his was better.” I made the mistake of putting the location of the plot for the family, NOT HIM. Of course, I did NOT delete.

I also had some spooky things happen to me. Strange spiritual things. Not scary but very interesting.

My husband was born in Lebanon.

My father’s name is John Chester Spivak. His father was Timothy Spivak, and his mother was Tessie Spivak. I have all the info and the ships they came on in the early 1900s to Ellis Island.

You are sparking interest. Maybe I’ll join ancestry again.

All the Best,

Judy

[FindAGrave Profile for Judy – Editor]

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Autosomal DNA


Monday, July 20, 2020, 7:02 PM

Hello John,

Well, I did some house cleaning, and I found my dad’s Y DNA certificate. See attachment.

And I also made a mistake in thinking you were on my Autosomal DNA. I remembered you have an Ancestry DNA test kit. I had FTDNA, so I have ordered a testing kit from Ancestry.com. They have a great offer of having a subscription for $1.00 for three months so, that sounds GREAT!!! Then we will see if we are autosomal relatives.

Attached is my Grandmother’s ship record and grandfather’s ship record to Ellis Island. It was quite a hunt. My Uncle, who has since passed, helped me. Since these people are uneducated, their names were spelled wrong, but Uncle and I figured things out.

My poor Uncle fell backward from his cellar steps in CT just a week past his 90th birthday. Very sad. I do miss him.

So I will be keeping in touch. I cannot get any more of my father’s Y DNA, so through what we have and mutations, yes, we are distant relatives. My Grandmother and grandfather were also 6th cousins.

All the best,

Judy

 

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Saying No to Facebook

Fri 7/24/2020 1:35 PM

Hi John,

I did not see this email. I apologize for the late response.

Ah, I am a Trump supporter, conservative, pro-life, but my husband is not. He gets a pass cause he was born and raised in Lebanon, a third world country. He supports socialism. Plain to see, especially if you go to Lebanon.

We own a condo there, and we go once per year. I love the long flight, but I get upset over all the Syrian refugees that only the United Nations support., The country looks down at them, and they live anywhere they can “plop.” Including the land of our condo.

Last year, with the guise of being with a Lebanese group, we toured Russia. Extremely interesting. Bad food, so I lived off of beer and desserts. Breakfast wasn’t all that bad. The tour guides pointed out that we were American, but they were positive and wanted to talk to me.

Ah, Facebook. I’m going to pass on that. I belong to the #walkaway movement, and I am attending a town hall meeting here in LA on August 8th. Anxious to meet Brandon Stratka.

Catch ya later.

Judy

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DNA Test Results

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Tue 8/4/2020 3:38 PM

Hi John,

Hmm. I have to study, but memory is coming back.

We match 23 out of 25 markers. (see attachment)

And my dad is Rb1 is Polish, so we are 11 generations apart but could be closer IF I did a DNA test before my father died. I have no remaining males to give me a sample.

But if you did the Ancestry DNA, we will compare the autosomal.

Did you do the ancestry DNA test? I did mine a week ago, and the results will be in one month.

Since my grandparents were 6th cousins, the autosomal will tell a lot.

Judy