On Fri, July 31, 2020, at 9:11 AM
Beth,
One of the images I sent you was a letter from Jack’s mother dated April 24, 1961.
Wow!
John
Updates to Family Tree
Fri 7/31/2020 9:22 AM
Jeff,
Several of the papers you have are part of Dad’s May 1955 DD 398, a government employment form.
Wow! Very nice to have.
Much of this information will validate entries in the Family Tree.
Dad mentions he had a Family Tree made and will send it sometime. If you come across it, I would be most interested in it.
It might confirm, for example, my theory that our Great-Grandfather had a brother.
Love,
Your brother
Letter
Friday, July 31, 2020, 1:02 PM
John,
WOW, that’s awesome. Do you know who she’s talking about??
Beth
Letter
Fri, Jul 31, 2020, at 1:07 PM
Beth,
No. I was hoping Jack might know or be able to figure it out. ?
John, IV
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Jeff’s Images
Fri 7/31/2020 1:14 PM
John,
He’s not home right but will ask him later today. I have a strong feeling he doesn’t know. Unfortunately, he’s NOT interested in anything to do with Ancestry, even if it’s about his family tree. I’m just the opposite; I LOVE IT. I only wish I understood better the technology available today. You’re helping me a lot. There’s another cemetery in town with Elciks, and I’m going there today. I’ll be gone all afternoon and will be in touch later today.
Beth
Aunt Gertrude’s Letter
Sat, August 1, 2020, at 4:51 AM
Beth,
I’ve pieced together a part of the backstory of Aunt Gertrude’s letter dated April 24, 1961.
She is talking about Helen B. Mosko, her new stepmother. Helen and John Jr. were married on September 1, 1959.
John P Elcik, Jr. and Helen B. Mosko saw their spouses pass away (John in 1951 and Helen in 1953).
Helen lives five more years after John, Jr. died on March 31, 1963.
I think it is interesting that Helen speaks mostly Slovak. Aunt Gertrude says she likes her but can’t get herself to call her mother.
My Dad, in his papers, also shares the information that Helen is a naturalized citizen. Naturalization Certificate Number is 637181 issued at Bath, Maine, October 10, 1917. Both he and Aunt Gertrude reference the same Certificate number.
What is still a mystery for me is the reference to checks. I also don’t know who Auntie Gertrude writes this letter. Who would she call kids?
What do you think?
John, IV
P.S. I also am at a loss as to why my father did not acknowledge Helen’s existence when I asked him in a 2008 letter.
Father’s Papers, Maybe Not
Sat, August 1, 2020, at 5:34 AM
Beth,
I assumed, I now think incorrectly, that the document found by Jeff in my father’s papers was written by my father.
The problem, however, is that not one of the four birthdates referenced match up with any individual in the family tree.
Do you have anything on these dates?
- “I was born in Kenduskeag, Maine March 7, 1905.”
- “Gramp was born in Kenduskeag, Maine, March 25, 1879.”
- “Gram was born in Mansfield, Maine January 5, 1885.”
- “Your Mother was born August 26, 1908; I think in Denmark, Maine.”
Given my Dad’s date of birth, I initially thought these would be John, Jr., John Sr., Mary Pelcarsky, and Mary Byrus.
They are not as we have their birthdates as follows.
- John Jr. 20 FEB 1896
- John Sr. 06 NOV 1866
- Mary Pelcarsky 06 NOV 1870
- Mary Byrus 05 NOV 1900
Another puzzle to be solved.
John, IV
Dr. John P. Elcik
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Fort Myers, FL 33919