Category: Gamache

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Are John Ilcik and John Elsik Cousins?


Wed 8/12/2020 9:22 AM

John (NY)

First, I’m glad we found the George Elcik/Anna Gamache family connection.

I still believe there is a direct family relationship between John Ilcik (1886-1982) and John Elsik (1866-1941), our direct ancestors. Given the 20 years that separated the two, I suspect the relationship between these two is cousins.

To prove this will require access to records in Austria-Hungary. Ancestry wasn’t much help, The Family Tree Search Engine, however, sponsored by the Church of Latter-day Saints, has produced a few leads.

I’ll keep you posted.

John, IV

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Elcik Family Tree

Wed 8/12/2020 12:04 AM

John, IV

I thought you might get a “kick” out of the smoking story; I know I did.

I just started adding the Elcik family tree to my Gamache tree on Ancestry. I still have a ways to go but will get there. I also have lots of Byras info, all handwritten, in my notebook, which I will eventually add. I have a childhood friend, Steven Byrus (yes, he spells his last name with a U instead of an A), and he has given me lots of info on the Byras family history. I have quite a few gravestone pictures of them and will send them to you if you’re interested. Give me a day or two to do that.

I want to thank you for getting me started on the Elcik family Ancestry. It was going to be my winter project, but thanks to you, it’s done now. I honestly don’t think I would have figured out a lot of it without your help. We make a great team.

Beth

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Email to Joseph Elcik


Fri 8/14/2020 1:06 PM

Joseph,

I have just completed 6 weeks of intensive full-time research into the Elcik surname.
You are the sixth individual in the “family” that I have communicated with.

Most relevant to you may be my conversations with John Elcik of Rocky Point, New York, who is definitely on your family tree. I think he and your father are cousins?

Most of what I know comes from Census records.

John (New York) and I have been seeking ties between our families.

To date, I have found one.

I now know that there is at least an indirect connection between what I call New York Elcik’s and myself.

George Elcik (in the 1920 Census) on your branch of the family tree married Jack Gamaches ‘s father’s sister Anna Gamache on my branch. Yes, this is where Beth helped me solve the puzzle, as Jack is my 1rst cousin.

I’m now focused on proving a more direct family relationship between John Ilcik (1886-1982) and John Elsik (1866-1941). Given the 20 years that separated the two, I now suspect the relationship between these two is cousins.

To clarify, John Ilcik figures prominently on your family tree, and John Elsik is my Great-grandfather. To date, I can’t find a direct link.

This does not preclude other relationships from being found. It just has become a lot harder as the answer probably is in Europe. Ouch!

I hope you can find and share your family tree. It could help me solve puzzles I don’t even know exist.

Warmest regards,

John

P.S. The attached history of the spelling of Elcik is one of my more interesting findings and led me to discover that my Great-grandfather probably had a brother: Joseph Elsik.

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Facebook Post – John Elcik for Beth Purinton Gamache

08-17-2020 Beth Purinton Gamache Facebook

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Beth Purinton Gamache
July 17 ·
Thank you for helping me! I just told Jack that his Maine Maritime Acadamy photo was taken during the time I thought he looked like Ben Gazzara (it may also have been the voice.) More recently, a picture of him with you looks like a young Gene Hackman. And you, yourself, are extremely photogenic today. Here is a family picture from several years ago. We need to have a more recent one commissioned. J.P. is a teacher and getting married soon to Ana, also a teacher. Michelle is a Pharmacy Tech at Walgreens. Pam and I are enjoying retirement.

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Facebook Post – Beth Purinton Gamache for John Elcik

08-17-2020

John,

I never knew I was married to a celebrity!!!! I have a Gamache family tree on Ancestry, which includes Elcik and Byras. Byras was Gertrude’s mother’s maiden name. I will share what I have with you on Ancestry. I have some missing links on the Elcik family, but you may help me with that. Jack isn’t on Ancestry and isn’t interested, but I AM!! Hopefully, we can help each other with all this family “stuff.”

Beth Purinton Gamache

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The Family Tree, etc.

8/19/2020 11:53 AM

From: Dr. John Elcik <johnelcik@msn.com>

To: Stacey Elcik Duryea <sweetlysung25@gmail.com>; Lauren Elcik Portell <elcik87@gmail.com>
Cc: James Stacy Elcik <jselcik@hotmail.com>; Jeffrey Lee Elcik <jeff@anyport.com>

Subject: The Family Tree, etc.

Stacey and Lauren,

Back in 2008, I worked on a family tree called “My Cousins” that was useful then. I have a new updated version that is nearing a stopping point. It will never be “completed.”

You may already have your resources dedicated to this, but even so, this could be helpful. I also would love to gain access to anything you would like to see put into the family tree. I am using the tree to build a Family history, so many of my images, documents, and website links are unconventional. I use the tree to tell family LifeStory’s. ?

Are you interested in having your copy of my version of the Family tree? If so, the following FREE options exist for using a copy of the tree.

The typical approach is to ask for a GEDCOM file. I can provide a file in this format used with virtually any Ancestry or genealogy software. The file is free.

It is not the way I recommend you go because GEDCOM FILES are text-only files. The downloads do not contain photos and other documents. I have attached a link below that explains more about GEDCOM files.

This text is a link to the article.

Two outside companies sync to Ancestry. Now our local copy of the family tree will retain photos and documents. The companies which sync with Ancestry are Family Tree Maker 2019 and RootsMagic.

I have elected to use Family Tree Maker 2019 by Mackiev. 

This text is a link to Mackiev Live Chat.

If you want a GEDCOM or Family Tree Maker backup, send your request with an email address for delivery. The files are free. You will need a software program to use them.

The tree includes familiar surnames: Adams, Elcik (Elick, Elsik, Ilcik), Gamache, McClanahan, Lucas, Skillin, and Strand. I am willing to add additional surnames to the tree. To get started, I typically need the dates of birth and full names of grandparents (maiden names for women).

Also, I’m willing to help other family members with their trees. I think it is essential to update older trees to include sources, images, and web links. As Genealogist’s say, “A Tree without Sources is Mythology.”

Uncle John

P.S. The other family tree option is a FREE guest account at Ancestry.com. You will be able to view records but not change them. Both options require an email address.

P.P.S. Please forward this email to anyone you feel could be interested in sharing info or gaining access.

[Jim and Jeff will need to pass this message on to Christopher, Harry, Maxwell, and Sam for whom I don’t have valid email addresses. – John P. Elcik, Editor]