Beth,
Is there a possibility that you can get the individuals in this photo of the Karkos family identified?
John, IV
Thu 9/10/2020 3:25 AM
Beth,
This is the 3rd email I sent Nancy. I should have just copied you at the same time. I’m still a work in progress.
John, IV
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From: Dr. John Elcik <johnelcik@msn.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020, 4:38 AM
To: Nancy Kashmer <lanaka@comcast.net>
Subject: A Special Photo
Nancy,
This is one of my favorite photos as it matches the individuals surveyed in the 1910 U.S. Federal Census.
The Elcik family in 1910 top row from left to right: John P. Elcik, Jr.; Michael Elcik, and Andrew Elcik. Bottom row from left to right are Mary (Dutko) Elcik, Elizabeth (Small) Elcik, John P. Elcik, Sr.; Mary (Pelcarsky) Elcik; Susan (Kiszonak) Elcik; and Annie (Karkos) Elcik. [Elizabeth & Annie are twins]
I’m hoping that you will have more exact information on where in Europe our families came from. I have hit the “brick wall” when it comes to locating anyone further back in history than John Elsik (Sr.). I also have a theory about his having a brother named Joseph to prove.
Cousin Johnny
Tue 9/15/2020 9:31 PM
John,
I believe you’re an author even if you haven’t “published” any books. I talked to Eugene Elcik on the phone about his family, and his father is Andrew Elcik, your grandfather, John P Elcik’s brother. (I’m thinking you know that.) When I talked to him, he told me he’s currently writing a second book on Shiloh. I read the first one very interesting. I plan to call him again and ask him if he remembers the Durham Elciks.
I’m still working on the identity of the Karkos photo you sent me. I sent it to Pam Karkos Lizotte, and she’ll show it to her father, George Karkos. I haven’t heard back from her. I have a neighbor I talked to about the picture, hoping he may know some of them. I also gave two copies of the image to a friend of ours, John Piela, who owns Lisbon Fuel. He’s 82, still working, and came to our house to service our oil tank. We were making the Loksa, and he said his mother used to make it, and he ate it as fast as she could make it. He started talking in Slovak and didn’t think anyone knew how to make Loksa anymore. I told him I learned how to make it from Jack’s mom (which is true), and she was Slovak. He said his family would put sugar on it or maple syrup. We gave him a piece, and he loved it!!
If you and Bill Cizmar became friends, I know you’d have lots in common. He loves Ancestry and spends most of his time doing all kinds of research there. He knows way more about it than I do and is one of my good friends at the Historical Society. He lives in CA with his wife. Bill is from Lisbon and knows lots of Lisbon history. If you’ve ever seen Lisbon Maine Ancestors in the HINTS, that’s him. He researched all the people born in Lisbon and created that site. He and his wife (a Durham native) come to Maine every summer, and he comes to the Historical Society every Thursday, which is the only day we’re open. I’ve mentioned your name to him in our emails about our working on Ancestry together—just a little history.
I’ll keep working on the identity of the people in the Karkos picture. Nothing yet, but I’m curious.
Beth
Wed 9/16/2020 4:18 AM
Beth,
Yes, I knew Andrew Elcik is my grandfather’s brother.
But I didn’t know that his son was Eugene Elcik. Kudos for you! Thanks for solving another mystery.
Now I really must read some of Eugene’s work. This second book on Shilo will be his seventh book overall, which reminds me of the distinction I should have made between author and writer. The author gets paid for writing, so Eugene is a real author. I like to write.
Thank you also for sharing the Karkos photo with Pam Karkos Lizotte. I think her father, George Karkos, is the key to us learning a great deal more. I’m also encouraged that you are sharing the photo with others. I’m reminded of the old saying, “don’t put all your eggs in one basket.” As a frequent tilter at windmills, I like that this saying appears in Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes (1615). Could we be related? Unlikely.
I’m curious about to which John P. Elcik Bill Cizmar reached out. If it was me, I missed it. Should I try to contact him? As an introvert, that isn’t easy for me, but It does appear we have lots in common. Do you know the difference between an introvert and an extrovert? It has nothing to do with outward behavior. I, as an introvert, and my wife, as an extrovert, can attend the same party and both be outgoing and have a great time. When we get home, I will be tired and need rest, while Pam is energized and ready to do it again. Pam is an extrovert. I’m a wannabe.
Please do keep working on the identity of the people in the Karkos picture. Also, I think you should share with Nancy what you are doing for us with your many contacts. I think she is very interested. One can learn a lot more by talking directly with them. I see another phone call in my future, just to put you on notice that I will surprise you and Jack someday.
How are you doing with the other mystery I suggested to you? Is there a second Purinton contact within our families? “Curiosity killed the cat; satisfaction brought it back.” Did you know that Stephen King used the cat saying in one of his books? Do you know which one? Being a friend of his, I expect you to know this without using Google. ?
John, IV
Wed 9/16/2020 1:14 PM
John,
I talked with Pam, and she hasn’t shown the picture to her father yet. He’s homebound because of his recent surgery. She told me to call him between 5&7 p.m., which I’ll try to do today.
I also was very good friends with Pat Karkos in high school, and our son Derek was good friends with her son Tony. Pat passed away many years ago, but she has a sister Terry who’s still living. I’m friends with Tony’s wife on FB and will reach out to her to get Terry’s phone #, etc. Pat’s father’s name was Joe Karkos, and I have a feeling there’s a connection. I hadn’t thought about any of this before now.
Another little tidbit you will LOVE!! My friend Pat Karkos married a man from Durham, Peter Austin. Their son Tony Austin which I mentioned above, and his wife, Tracy Austin, own a restaurant on Maine St. in Lisbon Falls called Frank’s. Back in the day, the original building/business was called Kennebec’s Fruit Company. Their claim to fame was selling Moxie. Frank Annicetti Sr owned it. After he passed, his son Frank Annicetti Jr. ran the business and eventually sold the business to Tony & his wife, Tracy. Jack and many local kids would buy penny candy and then go to the Met Theater across the street to watch movies. I, being from Durham, never had the opportunity to do that because I lived too far away.
The building was getting very run down, and when Tony and Tracy bought it, they renovated it. They kept as much of the original building, inside and out, including the wood floors, metal ceiling (which is beautiful). They also kept the counter where he sold his famous Moxie, root beer floats, penny candy, etc. They painted the outside of the building and kept all the original colors. Frank’s (Tony & Tracy named the restaurant after Frank Annicett) has become the “go-to place” to go for dinner from people all over the surrounding area. Because of COVID, they were closed for a few months. The town of Lisbon agreed to “block off” a section of Maine St. for the summer and now have ten sizeable wooden picnic tables with large tents over them. People have filled the tables every day they’re open for outside dining. We’ve been there several times, and it’s wonderful.
You may remember Kennebec’s when you came to Lisbon Falls with your parents. Lisbon has a Moxie Festival every summer during a weekend in July and has done so for many years. People come from all over the country to attend. It was canceled this year because of COVID. You can Google Moxie Festival, Frank’s restaurant, and Frank Annicetti and find out more information.
I also went to Durham Elementary School with Stephen King. That’s another story for another day, and I’ll start a new email for that one if you’re interested.
My point to this whole story is: There’s a Karkos family who may now be famous living in Lisbon, except the last name is Austin.
That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it,
Beth
John,
I sent the Karkos family photo to 3 friends at the HS and have heard back from two of them. Neither one recognized anyone, BUT Charlie Hall, who’s an Ancestryaholic (not sure if that’s a word, but it is NOW), and we’ve been exchanging emails the last two days. I mentioned that you’ve asked me if there’s a connection to my Purinton family and Puringtons in your family tree. I’m pretty sure there’s a connection, but it’s difficult for me to figure out. With your permission, I’d like to give him your email address, and you can ask him directly. I shared my Purinton family tree with him a couple of years ago, and he knows it well. He figured out that he and I are related through the Goddards, not blood but marriage.
If anyone can figure it out, he will.
Beth