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Information Sharing

Wed 9/16/2020 4:18 AM

Beth,

Yes, I knew Andrew Elcik is my grandfather’s brother.

But I didn’t know that his son was Eugene Elcik. Kudos for you! Thanks for solving another mystery.

Now I really must read some of Eugene’s work. This second book on Shilo will be his seventh book overall, which reminds me of the distinction I should have made between author and writer. The author gets paid for writing, so Eugene is a real author. I like to write.

Thank you also for sharing the Karkos photo with Pam Karkos Lizotte. I think her father, George Karkos, is the key to us learning a great deal more. I’m also encouraged that you are sharing the photo with others. I’m reminded of the old saying, “don’t put all your eggs in one basket.” As a frequent tilter at windmills, I like that this saying appears in Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes (1615). Could we be related? Unlikely.

I’m curious about to which John P. Elcik Bill Cizmar reached out. If it was me, I missed it. Should I try to contact him? As an introvert, that isn’t easy for me, but It does appear we have lots in common. Do you know the difference between an introvert and an extrovert? It has nothing to do with outward behavior. I, as an introvert, and my wife, as an extrovert, can attend the same party and both be outgoing and have a great time. When we get home, I will be tired and need rest, while Pam is energized and ready to do it again. Pam is an extrovert. I’m a wannabe.

Please do keep working on the identity of the people in the Karkos picture. Also, I think you should share with Nancy what you are doing for us with your many contacts. I think she is very interested. One can learn a lot more by talking directly with them. I see another phone call in my future, just to put you on notice that I will surprise you and Jack someday.

How are you doing with the other mystery I suggested to you? Is there a second Purinton contact within our families? “Curiosity killed the cat; satisfaction brought it back.” Did you know that Stephen King used the cat saying in one of his books? Do you know which one? Being a friend of his, I expect you to know this without using Google. ?

John, IV

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Postscript

Readers:

We write because of speculation that someday, someone will ask about their ancestors and their family history. We wish that when they do that, there is a written record that includes not just names and dates of significant events; but also some idea of who we were both as individuals and as families.

Currently, genealogists are fond of saying that a Family Tree without sources is Mythology. True. But we argue that without stories and images to tell us the lessons learned, we gain nothing from good record keeping.

What follows is a transcript of electronic conversations with relatives as we traced our ancestor’s roots as far back as we could.

Thanks to technology, it is relatively easy to go back five generations to when our family reached the shores of America. What drove Elcik’s to make the journey? We can only guess. Our sincere hope is that someday the situation in Europe that prompted our immigration will be revealed. To identify and meet relatives from “across the pond” is something we wish for our children.

What is generally missing are life stories. We captured a few, added some images, and pray that others will pick up where we left off.

Dr. John Paul Elcik, IV
Contributor and Editor

Beth (Purinton) Gamache
Contributor

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Charlie Hall, Ancestryaholic


Sat 9/19/2020 5:08 PM

John,

I sent the Karkos family photo to 3 friends at the HS and have heard back from two of them. Neither one recognized anyone, BUT Charlie Hall, who’s an Ancestryaholic (not sure if that’s a word, but it is NOW), and we’ve been exchanging emails the last two days. I mentioned that you’ve asked me if there’s a connection to my Purinton family and Puringtons in your family tree. I’m pretty sure there’s a connection, but it’s difficult for me to figure out. With your permission, I’d like to give him your email address, and you can ask him directly. I shared my Purinton family tree with him a couple of years ago, and he knows it well. He figured out that he and I are related through the Goddards, not blood but marriage.

If anyone can figure it out, he will.

Beth

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MyHeritage Discoveries

Sat 9/19/2020 6:31 PM

Hi John,‎

Good news, we’ve found a new Person Discovery for you. It can add an entire branch to your family tree with 40 people, in just a few clicks!

The Discovery is for Charles Harry Purrington.

  • Charles Harry Purrington (1860 – 1912)
  • Joseph Purrington, His grandfather
  • Sally Sarah Purrington (born Edgerly), His grandmother
  • George Washington Purrington, His brother

Plus 37 additional relatives

This information comes from another family tree on MyHeritage originating from FamilySearch.

MyHeritage

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Pesky, but Important, Details


Sat 9/19/2020 7:57 PM

John,

Places of Birth

  • John Edmond Gamache, Central Maine General Hospital, Lewiston, Maine
  • Elizabeth Leola Purinton, Central Maine General Hospital, Lewiston, Maine
  • Loni Beth Gamache, Central Maine General Hospital, Lewiston, Maine
  • Derek John Gamache, Central Maine General Hospital, Lewiston, Maine
  • Lawrence Wayne Knoedler, Parkview hospital, Brunswick, Maine
  • Trevor Lawrence Knoedler, Parkview hospital, Brunswick, Maine
  • Amelita (Ami) Moran, Phonikville hospital, Chester County, Pennsylvania
  • Jonathan Michael Gamache, Parkview hospital, Brunswick, Maine
  • Jordan Faith Gamache, Parkview hospital, Brunswick, Maine
  • Nancy Gamache Kashmer, Lyla Lidback, Lisbon Falls, Maine
  • Larry Joseph Kashmer, III, Derry, New Hampshire
  • Nancy Jo Kashmer, Derry, New Hampshire
  • Joseph Haarmann, Syosset, New York

Places of Marriage

  • John Edmond Gamache & Elizabeth Leola Purinton, Methodist Church, Lisbon Falls, ME
  • Nancy Gamache Kashmer & Larry Joseph Kashmer, Holy Family Church, Lisbon Falls, ME
  • Derek John Gamache & Amelita (Ami) Moran, Brunswick, ME
  • Loni Beth Gamache & Lawrence Wayne Knoedler, Methodist Church, Lisbon Falls, ME

I hope I didn’t forget anyone or anything.

Beth

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MyHeritage Discovery


Sun 9/20/2020 3:09 AM

Beth,

I received the email below this morning. It says that MyHeritage can add an entire branch to my family tree with one individual. The Discovery is for Charles Harry Purrington.

The email refreshed my memory as Charles Harry Purrington was the name I sent you as an example. My source for the name Charles Harry Purington was the Elcik family tree by Family Search when I accepted one of their HINTs. To produce the report of individuals, I synced a copy of the FamilySearch tree with my MagicRoots software.

I now recall that this HINT prompted me to discover that before I added you, there were still six Purington individuals in my Ancestry.com tree. Assuming you made FamilySearch entries, I decided to ask if your marriage is the only connection between the Elcik and Purinton branches of the family tree.

The additional HINT from MyHeritage makes me even more curious. Yes, I have six Purington’s (including one Purinton) in my current Ancestry.com tree. But both Family Search and MyHeritage suggest that there are at least 40 more.

I have been focusing on the Elcik, Elsik, and Ilcik surnames, knowing that you have individual trees for the Purington, Day, and Gamache family branches. As marriages occur, I typically follow the spouse’s family for only one generation. The thought I had was that a single generation is enough to identify where our trees meet.

Have we reached the point where a combined tree is needed to answer a research question? Is your marriage to Jack the only connection between the Elcik and Purinton branches of the family tree? Could there be another?

It this clear, or have I muddied the situation more?

John

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Walker’s Pond

 
Wed 10/7/2020 8:49 PM

NO, it’s overgrown and is no longer a pond.  I think it’s still wet with pussy willows and various other vegetation.  I talked to Jack again about the picture and he agrees with Nancy, it’s Walker’s Pond.  

If you look at the picture again, there’s a hill in the background and that’s where my Purinton ancestors lived.  They were farmers and owned a lot of property in West Bowdoin.  Some of them were Deacons and Reverends in the West Bowdoin Baptist church which they helped establish.  I learned all this thanks to Ancestry.
 
Your cousin-in-law,
 
Beth