July 23, 2020, 10:30 PM
John, IV,
Interesting. You kept mentioning a New York John Elcik, and I couldn’t figure out who he might be. It makes sense there is a connection, but I know how difficult it is to find a common ancestor. I have a good friend who’s been on Ancestry for over 20 years, and he’s helped me many, many times, thank goodness.
Beth
July 24, 2020, 12:00 PM
John, IV,
I love the joke (if you will) about the mother, father, and daughter. Maybe that explains all our DNA and why some of us are messed up more than others! Lol…
You, dear John, have much more computer experience and expertise than I do. I’m just a hacker trying to figure all this out. I think I’m doing pretty good considering my limited knowledge. Ancestry is my only tool other than people I have been fortunate enough to know personally plus visiting many cemeteries in the area. This all piques my interest and keeps me up nights wondering who’s who. Your help with the Elcik family has been tremendous, and I’m so happy we’ve connected here.
There’s a family in Lisbon Falls, last name Karkos, BUT his mother was Annie Elcik, your grandfather John’s sister whom I know well. I’ve meant to talk to him because I understand he has some knowledge of the Elcik ancestry. I just called him, left a message, and hopefully, he’ll call back, and I’ll be able to meet with him. I Will let you know what happens. I have a few minutes and will try to “fix” some of my mistakes with the John P. Elciks. Wish me luck.
I looked at and copied the documents you sent. Thank you so much for this info. I love the one you wrote about the pronunciation of your surname. I’m convinced you’re a genius!!! I hope that doesn’t make your head swell!!!
Beth
July 24, 2020, 09:00 PM
John, IV
I haven’t had enough time to look at your Elcik tree yet but will do more in the next few days. I do agree that John P. Elciks and Andrew J. Elciks are a problem for me too. I noticed that you had our daughter Loni Beth Gamache Knoedler’s name spelled wrong, and you have her as Nancy’s daughter. Her husband died in 2013. All that info is on my Gamache/Elcik tree. I’m pleased to share that with you; however, I don’t know how to do it here. Can you help me with that?? I’ve shared my trees with friends on Ancestry but not here. I love all the pictures you have attached to people in your tree.
I received all the docs. Thanks. I have seen these and believe I have them saved on Ancestry. I did notice Eleanor’s name is spelled, Elinor. It’s spelled Eleanor on her gravestone. I’ve been to cemeteries in Lisbon, Lisbon Falls, and Lisbon Center and taken many pictures, so I have the dates correct. You can’t always depend on Ancestry for that.
Beth
Sat 7/25/2020 11:54 PM
John,
Jack’s grandfather, Edmond 1889-1956, had five siblings-James 1880-1950, Alma 1883-1908, Alphonse 1886-1970, Laura 1892-??, Alfred 1898-1952.
James had a son, Sylvio 1908-1996, Sylvio had a son Paul 1939-1948.
There are four generations of Nicolas Gamache. The first was born in 1601, died in France in 1680. He had a son Nicolas, born 1639, died 1699 in Canada, and He had a son Nicolas born 1680, died 1734 in Canada. He had a son Nicolas, born 1707, died in South Africa. No record of the year he died.
Alphonse had a son, Elmo J.1916-1980, and a daughter, Lucienne, 1911-1972. She is Lucienne Gamache, and she married Leo T. Moore. Saying that she may not be the Lucienne, you’re looking for but is the only one I can find.
Alfred had a son, Romeo B. 1926-2009
Sylvio, Elmo, Lucienne (if she’s the right one), and Romeo were all 1st cousins of Jack’s dad. Paul is a 1st cousin once removed.
I hope this helps you in your search for who they are.
Beth
Sun 7/26/2020 3:33 PM
John,
No, we’ve never been. I agree with you about the Canadian databases. It’s impossible to read anything because they’re mostly written in French, Canadian French at that!!
Beth
Sun 7/26/2020 3:43 PM
Thanks, John.
I’ll make the changes. I knew Jack’s grandfather’s 1st name was Joseph but haven’t corrected it yet but will do. I’ve spent so much time on my family genealogy and not as much on Jack’s. The John P. ELcik’s are driving me crazy.
I also have Family Tree Maker and have imported my entire family tree to that software. I’m still learning how to navigate my way around. Like everything, it’s a “work in progress”!!
Beth
Sun 7/26/2020 3:53 PM
John,
You’re light years ahead of me when it comes to technology. I don’t fully understand what you mean by Canadian databases and how I can access all the information you’re talking about. We may have to have a phone conversation one day.
Beth
