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Gravestone Photos

Tue, Jan 12, 2021, at 3:50 PM
Lisbon Historical Society <lisbonhistsoc@gmail.com> wrote:
Beth,
Here is John Elcik and his wife….

Took photos of all the old unreadable gravestones at St Cyrils…..and then cleaned them up in my program and this  one surely had the death dates. Will try to clean up in the Spring…. – Earl Williams
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Gravesite Photo

Jan 13, 2021, at 5:41 PM
Beth,
That was a tough one for sure… it bothered me for a while … I hate to be beaten!!

I went to the Catholic Church in Lewiston to get the map. They said all cemetery maps are at the St Peters Cemetery office.  Good to know… (We will see.)
If you hadn’t given me the death dates, they probably would never be found…That was about all that was readable…
I always had a hard time taking pictures there as the sun is in the wrong place… It is shining only on one side of the stones, so the other side of the stone gets moldy…
 This cemetery is the only one I know of that the stones face South to North. The Cemetery rule is that your feet face the rising sun (East) and the sunsets behind your head (West)… Didn’t know that, huh????
I did put them in Find A Grave and put obits and linked everyone … The problem arose when the two last generations used their middle name Paul as their first name. Also, even the oldest names all were John P.  (Genealogy nightmare)
Take care………… And stay safe…
Earl Williams, Lisbon Historical Society
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Gravestone Photo

Wed 1/13/2021 9:28 PM
John, IV
I’m forwarding you a conversation with my friend, Earl, at the Historial Society.  He found the gravestone for your Great Grandparents at St Cyril cemetery!!  They’re on the same gravestone and are basically unreadable.  He explains that in the email.  I’ll include them on the flash drive I send you once I get a clearer picture in the spring.  With his help, I’m confident that’ll happen.

I am over the top excited about his finding them.  This is one more piece of the Elcik puzzle we can put to rest.  
 
I especially love his comment about this being a genealogy nightmare!!
 
Beth
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Re: eBook Promotion

Thu 1/14/2021 4:48 PM
John,

 
This sounds great and accurate.  Did you notice the spelling of Elcik at the bottom of the gravestone as Ilcik??  I thought that was interesting considering the 3 different spellings we’ve seen on documents, etc.  I’m very anxious to take pictures of the gravestone to add to my collection I already have.  I also plan to help Earl clean it up in the Spring, and hopefully, we’ll be able to get better pictures after doing that.
 
Can you clear something up for me?  Are the eBook and My Cousins Group both on Facebook?  As you well know by now, I’m easily confused.  
Beth
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Re: Ilcik

Thu 1/14/2021 10:46 PM
John,

 
I don’t have a picture of the gravestone, but I can send you the one Earl sent me.  It’ll be a different email address, one that I use for my personal emails.  You should be able to enlarge it.  That’s what I did, and I had to do it several times to see the letters.  I may go to the cemetery tomorrow to see if I can get a close-up.  The letters are raised rather than engraved.
 
It’s definitely OK to use the Ilcik spelling for both groups.  I’m not sure it’ll spark any interest in a DNA test.  If people want to do that, they would have already done it.  At least, that’s my feeling.  
 
You asked me about Jack’s DNA test.  I can’t find it.  I have mine, and his is MIA at the moment.  I’m so upset with myself.  I have lots of documents and Ancestry info for my family in my office, and it may be mixed up with that.  I’ll keep looking for it.
 
I’m switching to my email to send you the picture Earl sent me.
 
Stay tuned,
 
Beth
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Re: The MyCousins Project

Fri 1/15/2021 10:49 PM
John, IV
I think people have lost interest and don’t share the enthusiasm you and I have.  No matter the reasons, you’ve worked hard on the project, and I’ve done what I can on my end.

I have to tell you; I went to St Cyril cemetery today because I couldn’t wait until Spring to find your great grandfather’s/grandmother’s gravestone.  Their last name is definitely spelled Ilcik because I traced it with my finger.  I did the same with their names and dates.  It says he was born in 1867, and we’ve been putting 1866 as his dob.  I took 2 pictures and will send them to you when I download them to my computer.  I’ll do that tomorrow as I’m tired tonight.  
 
I didn’t sleep well last night because this has been on my mind, plus I’m adding names to the Byras family tree.  Something I hadn’t mentioned to you before now….as you know, I grew up in Durham, and a good friend of mine and close neighbor was Stephen Byrus.  His father and mother were Joseph Byrus and Marie Yvette Pelletier Byrus (she used her middle name Yvette), and his grandfather and grandmother were Joseph Byrus and Louise Crowley Byrus.  Our parents were very good friends and spent a lot of time together.  Stephen was an only child; his dad had cancer and died young at 43.  It upset my parents greatly, especially my dad because he lost a great friend.  Yvette worked in a bank in Lisbon Falls, and she and my mom remained friends until her retirement, and she moved to Camden, ME., where she died.   Yvette would visit once in a while, and they often exchanged letters. 
 
The point of this story is… Stephen stopped at our house a few years ago with lots of information about the Byras family.  The Byras family had a family reunion in Bowdoin every year, and we always went when Gert was alive.  After she died, Jack lost interest in going, and so did his dad.  Stephen went every year and knew all the Byras family.  He also knew I had joined Ancestry and wanted to know the Byras family history.  He told me all the family members, and thankfully, I wrote it all down.  I hadn’t done much on the Byras family until a couple of days ago, and now I’m obsessed with completing that tree.  I’m not done yet, but I’m close.  I can only work for a few hours and don’t always get back to it until the next day.  
 
Another bit of information… Joe, Yvette, and Stephen Byrus spell their last name Byrus, and the rest of the family spells it Byras.  I don’t know if you had noticed that.  I asked Stephen why one time, and he said he didn’t know, but his family always spelled it that way.  
 
I’ve rambled enough for now, but I thought you’d be interested to know my connection to the Byras family.  Little did I know when I was growing up, I’d marry Jack and become involved with his family history as much as I have.  I couldn’t wait to get to the cemetery today to find the Elcik/Ilcik gravestone.  I even saw Earl’s footprints in the snow!!!!
 
I’m shutting down for now.  I’ll send the pictures tomorrow.
 
Beth