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What is a Durham Elcik?

 
Wed 10/28/2020 8:17 PM
 
Beth,

 
I’m going to recommend that we do not use location to describe the differences between the two Elcik families immigrated to America.
 
I started by using New York as a description for John Elcik in Rocky Point, New York, and later we both changed that to Durham Elcik’s to reflect the common origins in Maine. Because of my father and his siblings, I always self-identified with Lisbon Falls. 
 
After a closer look, it would appear that both Elcik families immigrated to Durham, Maine, and are Durham Elcik’s.  John Elsik immigrated in 1891 and Mary Pelcarsky in 1896. John Ilcik immigrated in 1905 and Mary Maria Yonek a year later in 1906. Durham was a relatively small community of 1,625 people in 1910 and, by 1920, the population had shrunk to 1,144 people.
 
John Elsik, Sr. (1866-1941), and Mary Pelcarsky (1870-1936) were born in Austria and died in Lewiston, Maine. At least six of their seven children were born in Durham, Maine.
  • 1886 John Elcik, Jr.
  • 1897 Michael Joseph Elcik
  • 1899 Mary Anna Elcik
  • 1901 Andrew John Elcik
  • 1905 Annie Elcik
  • 1905 Elizabeth Elcik
  • 1910 Susan M. Elcik (location unknown)
John Ilcik (1886-1962) and Mary Maria Jonek (1887-1951) were born in Slovakia and Austria.  Both died in Lewiston, Maine. All five of their children were born in Durhan, Maine.
  • 1907 Joseph Elcik
  • 1908 John Ilcik, Jr.
  • 1911 Andrew John Elcik
  • 1915 George Michael Elcik
  • 1919 Marie E. Elcik
Both men and their wives died in Lewiston, Maine.
 
Subsequently, both families’ paths would take them in different geographic directions.
 
The offspring of John Elsik would have their children in Libson Falls, Maine. John Elcik, Jr.’s wife and all six of their children would be born in Lisbon Falls.
 
The offspring of John Ilcik would have their children in New York. The first in 1931 is John Joseph Elcik, the son of Joseph Elcik.
 
John Ilcik’s brother Paul Joseph Ilcik, Sr. (1896-1970) and his wife Mary A. Fabian (1891-1978) would have two children
  • 1915 Paul Joseph Elcik, Jr. (Durham)
  • 1917 Mary A. Elcik (Lisbon Falls)
Based on this new information, I find it less confusing if I refer to each family as the descendants of John Elsik or John Ilcik. John Elsik was the family that relocated to Lisbon Falls and John Ilcik, the family that relocated to New York. 
 
Both families would move on to other locations. At one point, we each had family in Butler County, Ohio. Pam and I lived in Fairfield, Ohio; simultaneously, Jacqueline Elcik lived close by. A piece of mail belonging to Jacqueline was delivered to my house by mistake when my mother, formerly Jacqueline Elcik, now Jacqueline Skillin, lived with us. It was a check which we deposited by honest mistake. Ouch!
 
That was easy, wasn’t it? Lol.
 
John Elcik, IV
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JP’s Wedding

Mon 11/2/2020 7:56 AM

Beth,

It is official. J.P. and Ana were married yesterday in a micro-wedding held in a gorgeous glass room on the edge of the natural habitat in Bonita Springs.
After the ceremony, we had the pleasure of feeding flamingos and could have fed alligators too. We opted to go to the married couple’s home for cake and refreshments. I’m sure that we will go back to the habitat as it is a great place to visit and close by.
More details and “official” pictures will be on the flash drive, but for now, I have joyfully added to JP’s record on Ancestry.com.
Wife: Ana Kristine Del Moral
Her father: Luis Miguel Del Moral, Jr.
Her mother: Maria Suarez
Her brother: Luis Miguel Del Moral, III
John, IV
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So, What Is Anatolian?

Monday, Nov 9, 2020
John Elcik –First, a shoutout to my Turkish cousins Sabri and Vladimir. An explanation follows…
My brother Jeff took a 23andMe DNA test with interesting results. Through the 5th generation, our known ancestors came from the Czech Republic and Austria to the United States in the late 1800s. But our family background is more diverse than I ever knew.
Quoting 23andMe, “You most likely had a third-great-grandparent, fourth-great-grandparent, fifth-great-grandparent, sixth-great-grandparent, or seventh-great- (or greater) grandparent who was 100% Anatolian. This person was likely born between 1700 and 1820.”
So what is Anatolian?
Anatolia, Turkish Anadolu, also called Asia Minor, the peninsula of land today, constitutes the Asian portion of Turkey.
I have referred to my Turkish friends on Facebook as “Surname buddies” as we share the Elcik surname. In the eBook that I am writing called “My Cousins,” they are cousins. Wow! That’s nice.
Cheryl Heath – Looks like we are a very interesting family.

Pamela Elcik – You explained this very well… I married into an awesome family!! Thank you Johnnie for doing all this research and sharing it with everyone!! I love you sweetheart!!

Martin Michael Adams – John, was Richard your uncle?
John Elcik – Yes. I’m also working on the Family tree and an eBook to include the Adams family. Send an email to me at johnelcik@msn.com to get access and updates.
Martin Michael Adams – What Adams family?
John Elcik – My maternal grandmother was Charlotte Mae Adams born 26 AUG 1908 in Denmark, Maine, and died 25 FEB 1985 in Meriden, Connecticut. She was married to Clyde Raymond Skillin and their daughter Jacqueline Skillin was my mother. Grandma Adams’s father was Tracy Lee Adams, Sr. and her mother Edith May Purrington. She had a sister Edith May Adams and a brother Charles Harry Adams, Sr.
Eugene Elcik – Wow! that really makes me a mongrel.
John Elcik – Eugene Elcik, we too are mongrels. We like both the human and the dog variety. In the latter category, we have two “designer” dogs. Both are a combination of Chihuahua and rat terrier. Look for pictures to follow.
Eugene Elcik – Thank you, John; I’m waiting for your book. I appreciate your hard work. We Elcik’s have an interesting background, and certainly a proud one. My background includes french, also on my mother’s side. My great-grandmother married a seaman from Spain. That makes things more complex, however, that’s here-say from the family on my mother’s side, all have passed away. Thus, I can’t factually confirm that, only by my brother, Andrew II. We proudly have darker skin, much like a summer tan. Again, my thanks.
Eugene Elcik, My Cousins, is an eBook, an epistolary story told entirely in online communications. Mostly told through email, there are Facebook and LinkedIn communications also shared. It is less about dialog (we do have fun) and more about information sharing. Frankly, I have over 400 posts on a WordPress website. The thought was that Beth Gamache and I would document our journey creating the Elcik family tree, etc. I recognize that only a hardcore genealogist may want to read it. I have side projects: A historical essay (with several companion pieces), a virtual cemetery, a photo gallery, and the family tree itself. There is no end in sight. That being said, I will publish on a flash drive what I have on May 3, 2021. This will be distributed to about 25 people. You made the shortlist.  Our real goal is to inspire other family members to get involved.
Which of the Elcik family was your dad? Did he have a brother Richard??
Richard was my father’s only brother. The girls outnumbered the two of them. Dad was John Paul Elcik, III. My son is J.P. ,V.
  • Richard A. Elcik (1931–2016)
  • John Paul Elcik III (1928–2011)
  • Madelyn R. Elcik (1920–2005)
  • Gertrude Dorothy Elcik (1921–2002)
  • Mary D. Elcik (1923–1998)
  • Eleanor H. Elcik (1925–1956)

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Ancestry.com’s Messaging Platform

 
Tue 11/10/2020 12:54 PM
 
Beth,
 
I think 3 Ilcik-Elcik’s males are on Ancestry.com’s messaging platform: Brian, John, Robert, and Stephen.  
 
I’m reaching out to them to share what I am doing to encourage interest in the Elcik family history.
 
The following text is generically what each received with some personalization added to each message.
 
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Greetings,
 

I’m working on Genealogy brick wall scenarios related to the Elcik surname.

Two families came to America in the late 1888s or early 1900s. Today both families share the Elcik surname, Slovak heritage, and a Catholic background. Back then, the surnames were Elsik and Ilcik.
 
⦁ John Elsik (1866-1941) was married to Mary Pelcarsky (1875-1936). John immigrated to America in 1891, and Mary immigrated in 1896.
⦁ John Ilcik (1886-1982) was married to Mary Jeho Zena Jonek (1887-1951). John immigrated to America in 1905, and Mary immigrated a year later in 1906
 
I believe that there is a family relationship linking John Elsik to John Ilcik.
Finding the link has proven difficult as the church records in Europe most likely were destroyed in World War II.  
 
John Elsik (1866-1941) is my Great Grandfather.  
 
One possibility for finding the link between the two families is through a DNA test between two males, one from each family.
 
I’m looking to identify someone from the Ilick family who has or is willing to take a DNA test and share data.  There are two options: Ancestry.com is currently offering a 40% discount on its $99 test. It might be helpful. The better option when you seek a match between two living men is a Y-111 test. Admittedly, this is expensive at $250 for each participant.  
 
This is a chance to make history within the Elcik family. If you know someone who might be interested, please contact me. I’m looking for a hero. ?
 
Also, let me know if you want to be kept informed about the Elcik Family Tree. It is called My Cousins and includes data for both families. The tree has 2,650 people, 1,399 Photos, and 140 LifeStories. Access is by invitation only.  I’ll send one upon request.
 
Warmest regards,
Dr. John Paul Elcik, IV
Fort Myers, Florida
johnelcik@msn.com

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I will send a shorter but similar outreach message to the females on the Messaging service: Christine, Janie, Jessica, Kaitlyn, Kathryn, Marcie, Nancy. Primary, I’m limiting outreach to those spelling our surname Elcik. As you might expect, none are using the Ilcik spelling. 
I hope to gain additional interest in our family history. Here’s to hope!
 
John, IV