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Trying to Sell Judy on Using Facebook


Mon 7/20/2020 7:55 PM

Judy,

I know you are a technical wizard, so I have to ask, Do you use Facebook? If so, we should connect on their platform. I have recently reconnected with several relatives after decades of neglect. It is fun! I was never a fan of Facebook, but in retirement and being hard of hearing, it has become a hobby.

One warning, myself, friends, and several family members are conservative. California living, you may have become corrupted by the “Progressives.”

Lol.

John

[There appears to be no middle ground with Facebook. One is a user or not a user. Ask Nancy. As for me, I recently elected to become a user, but not a fan.  The platform is built more for friends than family. Maybe I will submit enhancement requests. – Editor]

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Background Information

July 21, 2020

Beth,

My site combines all the trees. Your practice of smaller trees makes better sense. The Skillin (Mom’s side) just blew mine up. Somehow I got a lot of ancient records. I’m investigating. 🙂

You show the father of John P. Elcik, Jr. (married to Mary Byras) to be Andrew Walker Elcik (1925-2000). Working off the 1910 Census, I concluded that John, Jr.’s father to be John Elsik (1866-1941) Sr. What do you think? The spouse for John, Sr. is giving me a headache. Two names: Mary Jonek and Mary Helen Parcheky, are candidates, but dates are part of the problem. Still researching. Several Stories show my journey that can be found in the Gallery on my record.

My current operating theory is that there have been at least three waves of immigrants arriving in America with the same or similar surnames.

  1. John Elcik (1886-1982) married to Mary Jeho Zena Jonek (1887-1951). John immigrated in 1905, and Mary immigrated a year later in 1906.) Ancestry says John is the husband of a great-aunt.
  2. John Elsik (1866-1941) married Mary Helen Parcheky (1875-1936) through whom I, Dad, and John, Jr. are descended. In the 1910 Census, he changed the name from Elsik to Elcik for everyone but himself. John Immigrated in 1891 and Mary in 1896. 2 sources verify both immigrations. Ancestry says John is my great-grandfather.
  3. Andrew J. Elcik (1911-1995) married Jeannie Pascarella through whom many of the New York Elcik’s are descended. He came to America through Elis Island in the late ’30s or early ’40s, and the name was changed to Elcik from Ilcik. Ancestry has found no family links. He could be “stepson of a great-aunt,” I am still researching.

Confused yet? I believe all three families will be shown as related, if and when we “jump the pond” to Europe. We all come from Europe (Austria/Hungry), spoke Slovak, and had a Catholic upbringing.

Another item of interest. The name was spelled Elcik in the 1910 Census but was spelled Elick in the 1930 and 1940 Censuses. The 1950 Census has yet to be published. I need to change them to Elcik as the preferred spelling, but several records may still show Elick. I plan on leaving Elcik, Sr. as Elsik as it is the spelling that I hope to get results with outside the U.S.

I’m showing Andrew W. Elcik, Jr. (1953-2016) as my 2nd Cousin and Andrew John Elcik (1911-1951) as the stepson of a great-aunt. This is an ideal example to show the difficulties that similar names cause us. Andrew J. Elcik (18 Nov 1911-16 MAR 1995) and Andrew John Elcik (26 OCT 1911-04 APR 1951) is an actual research problem for me. Andrew J. is the grandfather of my Elcik contact in New York, while Andrew John Elcik is a known relative. Thus, I have just told the New York John Elcik that I can’t show a family connection, yet. But I am having fun.

I sent you two pictures and 3 documents through the mail. I don’t think documents can be exchanged within Ancestry’s new Messenger service.

John, IV

P.S. Someday, ask me about my DNA story.

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DNA Testing

DNA


Tue, Jul 21, 2020, at 8:29 PM

Judy,

Ouch! I feel your pain.

Educate me. Which test do you want to do?

I had been looking at the Family Tree tests until you had such a bad experience. They also had been at the top of my list as they appear to have more Slovak DNA than the other big names. Relatively, few Europeans take DNA tests with our American companies. Or so I’m told.

Does Ancestry offer one test, or do they have options?

How is the new test different? What results are you looking for?

Warmest regards,

John

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Family Tree, etc.

Wed Jul 22, 2020, 6:08 AM

Janet,

The Family Tree I’m working on is quite robust because of the advantages computers give us.

The Tree includes information on all branches of our family, Elcik, Lucas, and more.
Ultimately, the project requires review by the people that know the individuals best. Would you be willing to review what I have on your parents? The final documents are something that I think you will cherish. And I get the satisfaction of knowing that I got their life stories right. What do you think?

Share your email address, and I will snd you four documents. There are a LifeStory and a Fact document for each parent. ?
With an eMail address, I could also provide you access to the whole Tree as a guest, contributor, or editor. Let me know if you want to do either of these options or both.

Warmest regards,

John

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Our Ties to Western Europe

Wed 7/22/2020 12:02 PM

All.

The Elcik’s in our Family tree can be said to originate from Western Europe. Their individual responses in Census reports, etc. may be due as much to economics and politics as to specific geography. How they identified is as follows:

  • Czech Republic (14)
  • Austria (13)
  • Austria-Hungary (4)
  • Hungary (4)
  • Slovakia (4)
  • Austria-Slovakia (3)

John, IV