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Gravestone Question


Friday, July 17, 2020, 11:47 PM

John (NY),

Could this be your Great-Great Grandfather’s gravestone? He is buried with his wife Jeho Zena Marie Ilcik, and one son.

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This son obviously can’t be your Great Grandfather. But they could have had another child.

If you examine the photo:

  • John Ilcik (16 MARH 1886 – ?? SEPT 1982)
  • Jeho Zena Marie Ilcik (28 SEPT 1887 – 13 AUG 1951), Age 63
  • John Ilcik (12 AUG 1908 – 02 JUL 1916)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/36864877

John, IV

[John Ilcik will be identified later as the Great Grandfather. – John P. Elcik, IV, Editor]

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Have We Reached a Brick Wall?


Fri 7/17/2020 1:47 PM

John (NY),

Good day!

It will take more work by us to get this done. The weakest link, but I believe real, is the relations “once removed* discovered by the software. The stronger relationship through our grandparents is yet to be discovered. We may not be able to prove the later without visiting Europe or DNA testing. But the quest is half the fun. 🙂

Regards,

John, IV

Sent from my iPad

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Granting Access to Ancestry.com


Friday, July 17, 2020, 2:09 PM

John (NY),

This email is to share with you that Ancestry.com should send you instructions for logging in.

My educated guess is that family members have been on ancestory.com in the past. They chose to make their Family Trees private. Even if they had not, Ancestry hides the names of living people. Are Janien, Christine, Stephen, Kaitlyn, Nancy, Samantha, Jessica, Kathryn directly related? If so, I hope you will enter their names and birthdates.

I believe the only “general” connection between families is solved, but I have yet to build out the Family Tree to a direct link between the two of us. I believe when you begin adding names and birthdates, we will discover our specific family relationship.

John, I am making you an editor of the Family Tree site. Editor means you have access to everything. It includes individuals who are living and notes.

Send me an email at johnelcik.com with questions or if you need anything.

***The software identifies the individual’s relationship with ME as the “root” individual under each person’s name. Once we have you connected though family data to your Grandfather, I can show you how to make yourself the “root” individual. The presumptive grandparent (my best guess) is John Elcik, born March 16, 1886 – Slovakia and passed on September 05, 1962 – Lewiston, Maine.***

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Enjoy!

John, IV

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Historical Photos

The Elcik Family about 1910 - We Have Traveled Far


Fri 7/17/2020 2:48 PM

John,

I’m attaching a historical photo.

The Elick family top row from left to right: John P. Elcik, Jr.; Michael Elcik, and Andrew Elcik. The bottom row from left to right are Mary Elcik (Dutko), Elizabeth Elcik (Small), John P. Elcik, Sr.; Mary Elcik (Pelcarsky); Susan Elcik; and Annie Elcik. (Elizabeth & Annie are twins)

John, IV

P.S. I am retired, so that I can give this much more time than you. Don’t worry; I will slow down.

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John and Beth’s First Facebook Conversation

July 17, 2020
John Elcik – Beth, Thank you for helping me! I just told Jack that his Maine Maritime Acadamy photo was taken during the time I thought he looked like Ben Gazzara (it may also have been the voice.) More recently, a picture of him with you looks like a young Gene Hackman. And you, yourself, are extremely photogenic today. Here is a family picture from several years ago. We need to have a more recent one commissioned. J.P. is a teacher and getting married soon to Ana, also a teacher. Michelle is a Pharmacy Tech at Walgreens. Pam and I are enjoying retirement.
I never knew I was married to a celebrity!!!! I have a Gamache family tree on Ancestry, which includes Elcik and Byras. Byras was Gertrude’s mother’s maiden name. I will share what I have with you on Ancestry. I have some missing links on the Elcik family, but you may help me with that. Jack isn’t on Ancestry and isn’t interested, but I AM!! Hopefully, we can help each other with all this family “stuff.”
John Elcik – My pleasure! I asked Jack three questions, and he was helped with one already. It is a sad fact that with Elcik’s, the trail is complicated. The name is variously spelled Elcik, Elick, Elsik, or Ilcik. Ouch! Plus, everybody loved the names Andrew,  James, John, Joseph, and Paul. To further complicate everything, two Elcik families immigrated to America (and Lisbon Falls, Maine) 15 years apart, and I have yet to establish a link between them. I do believe one exists. I can do five generations but not the sixth. Finally, Mary or Marie is the most popular name for the wives, and getting the right wife and husband combination has been a struggle. Only Mary Byrus is known for sure. And she has been recorded as Mary Burns. Spelling. Grrr.
Beth Purinton Gamache – You’re absolutely right about the spelling of last names. I struggle with that not only with Jack’s family but mine. I’ve been doing this for 3 years and am just now figuring some of this out. Bringing the Byras/Byrus family name into Jack’s family’s mix further complicates it for me. That puts you in the same category as me. Unfortunately, Jack isn’t interested in any of this, but I’m hooked. What is your name on Ancestry? I want to be sure to share the Gamache family tree with the right person.
John Elcik – Beth Purinton Gamache,  the address is jelcik@identityxperts.com as the other site is very old and soon to be deleted. Give me a week more, and I will be ready to share. My new site is called MyCousins with a matching website. The old site was called Cousins and used a different email address. 🤔
Beth Purinton Gamache – John Elcik,  I still have more work to do on the Byras/Elcik family. I combined those families with the Gamache’s. My email address for Ancestry is jbgam2@gmail.com. I will share the Gamache family with you. Are you on Ancestry???
John Elcik – Yes. And with your email, I can and will send you an invitation.

John Elcik – Invite has been sent. Enjoy!

Beth Purinton Gamache – Thank you!
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Your Facebook Photos Remind Me of My Brother Jim


Friday, July 17, 2020, 9:50 PM

John, NY

I think that your grandfather and mine look like brothers (fraternal twins?).

Later I learn that I have misidentified by using a photo of my maternal rather than paternal grandfather. – Ouch! – John, IV

Previously, I showed you or your father a picture of my brother Jim who in it resembles your dad. Did I send it to your father or was that you?

This is Jim’s photo. I was reacting to the pictures I had seen on Facebook.

John, IV