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Ancestry.com

Wed 8/5/2020 9:00 AM

Jim,

What a Family Tree used to be is different from what they are today. Until recently, a family tree was simply a graphical representation of family ancestors based on name, date-of-birth, date-of-marriage, and date-of-death. With the computer tools available today, it is common practice to cite the sources and where to find proof of each item.

The catchphrase for this is that “Genealogy without Sources is Mythology.” There are a lot of sources available online. My favorite is the U.S. Federal Census (households), but I enjoy finding copies of Record of a Birth, Marriage Certificates, Death Records, Draft Registration Cards, etc.

I have been helping Beth Gamache update her tree for Jack’s family. She had sources for the Purinton branch (her parents) and was beginning to update the Gamache and the Elcik tree branches.

I would like very much to gain access to Devon’s family tree. And if it needs updating to include sources, I would gladly help her father or even do it.

Enjoy!

Your brother

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LinkedIn Contact by Rebecca Davis Rebecca Davis

Contact by Rebecca Davis
Thu 8/6/2020 9:47 AM

LinkedIn

Dr. John Elcik,

We know each other from family……my grandmother was Gertrude Gamache – I just recently moved to Punta Gorda, FL. I was just viewing a video from my uncle Jack of the singing Elcik brothers. Beautiful – great memories of my grandmother singing the nursery rhyme to us kids!

best regards, becky

Rebecca Davis
QA Compliance Technical Specialist
Punta Gorda, Florida Area

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Cousin Nancy Joins the Ancestry Group

8/6/2020 10:22 AM

Nancy,

I am having so much fun in retirement. Reaching out to family regarding my updating the family tree has been a lot of fun.

The last time I worked on this was in 2008. Back then, Kari was the only one with whom I had contact. She asked for access to what was called “My Cousins” on Ancestry.com.

In addition to you and Beth, I have had contacts with Janet Welch and Mark Elcik. I believe Janet is going to reach out to Kari, and Beth is reaching out to Cheryl.

All my contacts began with Facebook, which, despite my familiarity with computers, is a program I had never used. I fancy myself a researcher, and I looked hard for your account. Jack finally told me that you don’t have one. It was a relief. That and not Beth would have driven me crazy.

Because I have your email, I will send you an invitation to join Ancestry as a guest. You will have permission to see everything, including information on living people. I don’t have an active subscription because I’m making updates on my personal computer using Family Tree Maker 2019.

I will send you a couple of follow-up emails. I need to assemble the information.

I am delighted that you are joining Beth and me in these discussions. I know we all have questions to answer, and this is an opportunity not to miss.

To bring you up to date on the Florida clan.

All is well. Pam and I are both retired. We just adopted a new puppy: Lucy Belle. J.P. is getting married this year and has bought a house with his fiancé Ana. We are enjoying that they both are teachers with lots of time off. ? J.P. teaches science and math, and Ana is a kindergarten teacher. Michelle works as a Pharmacy Tech for Walgreens. We are seeing her a lot while she makes renovations to a condo. She bought it together with her brother. We all live close to each other in Florida, so life is good.

Your cousin,

John, IV

15117 Cloverdale Drive
Fort Myers, Florida 33919

  • John: johnelcik@msn.com
  • Pam: pamelcik@gmail.com
  • J.P.: elcikjp@yahoo.com
  • Michelle: mkelcik@yahoo.com

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Why Ancestry Research?


Sat 8/7/2020 6:44 PM

To: Mark Elcik <marklcheck@yahoo.com>; Nancy Kashmer <lanaka@comcast.net>; Beth Gamache <gamachebeth83@gmail.com>; Janet Lucas <janw@maine.rr.com>; Rebecca Davis <rkashmerdavis@gmail.com>; Jeffrey Lee Elcik <jeff@anyport.com>; Pam Elcik <pamelcik@gmail.com>; J.P. Elcik <elcikjp@yahoo.com>; Michelle Elcik <mkelcik@yahoo.com>; James Stacy Elcik <jselcik@hotmail.com>

Subject: Why Ancestry Research?

Cousins, etc.,

I was sharing with Becky that I think a picture of the cover of the “Birds” book with the Kashmer farm illustrations and the back story would make a great addition to the tree. Becky’s response was perfect, “Could be a nice little fun fact to include… that isn’t the normal information included that I am used to seeing in family history.”

She is 110% correct. I observe that 80% or more of family trees limit themselves to sources and gravesite photos. Any photo at all is a newer concept as Genealogist’s focus has been on getting us amateurs to add citations to our family trees. The classic line has been that “Trees without sources are mythology.”

I think that what gets included in family trees needs to change dramatically. The purpose for me is to tell a story and preserve history. And I see changes taking place. Ancestry.com, for example, has made it easier to link to websites. Thus, I’m attaching links to Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter. Pinterest, FindaGrave.com, and Obituaries to individuals in my tree.

I want us to educate others to preserve family history rather than building family trees. Don’t you think that history recorded as it happens is more accurate? I’m including unconventional items as “artifacts” in my version of the family tree. I use images of business cards, photos of homes, artwork, music, poems, quotes, stories I’ve written, etc. And I’m adding special events: birthday parties, anniversaries, graduations, promotions, travel, etc.

I have another goal in mind. It is even more ambitious. I want Facebook to modify its software. Currently, it myopically focuses on “friends” and is not “family” friendly. With a few minor adjustments, they could easily do both. As a former software builder, I have made this suggestion to them. Hopefully, they will listen. If not now, I’m sure someone will, someday.

We get so wrapped up in daily living that keeping up with what is happening with our extended family is difficult at best. And capturing the memories gets lost if the memories never get made.

Love to all,

John, IV

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The Family Tree, etc.

The Family Tree, etc.
Dr. John Elcik
Sat 8/8/2020 5:32 AM

Stacey and Lauren,

Back in 2008, I worked on a family tree called “My Cousins” that was useful then. I have a new updated version that is nearing a stopping point. It will never be “completed.”

You may already have your own resources dedicated to this, but even so, this could be helpful. I also would love to gain access to anything you would like to see put into the family tree. I am using the tree to build a Family history so many of my images, documents, and website links are a bit unconventional. I use the tree to tell family LifeStory’s. ?

Are you interested in having your own copy of my version of the Family tree? If so, the following FREE options exist for using a copy of the tree.

The typical approach is to ask for a GEDCOM file. I can provide a file in this format and it can be used with virtually any ancestry or genealogy software. The file is free.

It is not the way I recommend you go because GEDCOM FILES are text-only files. The downloads do not contain photos and other documents. I have attached a link below that explains more about GEDCOM files.

https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Moving-Trees-Between-Accounts

There are two outside companies that sync to Ancestry. When the files are synced, they will retain photos and documents. The companies which sync with Ancestry are Family Tree Maker 2019 and RootsMagic.

I have elected to use Family Tree Maker 2019 by Mackiev. Here is a link to Mackiev Live Chat: https://www.mackiev.com/techsupport/ftm/livechat.html

If you want a GEDCOM or Family Tree Maker backup, send your request with an email address for delivery. The files are free. You will need a software program to use them.

The tree includes familiar surnames: Adams, Elcik (Elick, Elsik, Ilcik), Gamache, McClanahan, Lucas, Skillin, and Strand. I am willing to ADD additional surnames to the tree. To get started I typically need the dates of birth and full names of grandparents (maiden names for women).

Also, I’m willing to help other family members with their trees. I think it is important to update older trees to include sources, images, and web links. As Genealogist’s say, “A Tree without Sources is Mythology.”

Uncle John

P.S. The other family tree option is a FREE guest account at Ancestry.com. You will be able to view records but not change them. This too requires an email address.

P.P.S. Please forward this email to anyone you feel could be interested in sharing info or gaining access.

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Summary of Research Findings


Sun 8/9/2020 3:08 PM

Family,

I have put together this summary of the ancestry research findings:

I know it was two not three waves of Elcik immigration to Maine.

  • John Elsik (1866-1941) married Mary Pelcarsky (1875-1936) through whom I (IV), Dad (III), and John (Jr.) descended. In the 1910 Census, John Elsik identified his surname as Elsik. Elcik is the spelling used for the rest of the family. John immigrated in 1891 and Mary in 1896. Ancestry and I agree that John Elsik is my great-grandfather.
  • John Elcik (1886-1982) was married to Mary Jeho Zena Jonek (1887-1951). John immigrated in 1905, and Mary immigrated a year later in 1906. He came to America through Ellis Island, and the name was changed to Elcik from Ilcik, as told to his grandson. His son, Andrew J. Elcik (1911-1995), married Jeannie Pascarella through whom many of the “New York” Elcik’s descended. This family includes my “New York” contact: John Elcik.

I now know for sure that there is a connection between the New York Elcik’s and us. [Thank you, Beth.] Their George Elcik (in the 1920 Census) married Jack’s father’s sister Anna Gamache. The John Elcik, who I have corresponded with via Facebook and email, is related to me as “grand-nephew of husband of sister-in-law of aunt.” A real tongue twister.

I still believe the two families are more directly related, if and when we can “jump the pond” to Europe. We all come from Western Europe (Austria/Hungry/Slovakia), spoke Slovak, and have a Catholic heritage.

The three Elcik brothers (John, Jim, and Jeff) are the fourth generation in America and directly descended from the first 1891/1896 wave.

I now know the spelling history of the surname from Elsik, Elcik, Elick, and back to Elcik. There are also apparent misspellings: Elcih.

I know that there are different spellings of Pelcarsky. Pelcarsky is the spelling as recalled by George Karkos, who was married to Annie, one of Mary’s daughters. Pelcarsky spelled as Pelesaky (on Michael’s Record of Marriage), or Pelchascay (on John’s Record of Marriage) to mention two.

John Elcik, Jr. (my grandfather) was married a second time to Helen Mosko. This marriage was not revealed to me (even when I asked my father) for reasons I may never know. A “mystery” letter from Aunt Gertrude, located by Jeff, addressed to “kids” that references Helen’s immigration status and the waiting for checks.

I now have some priceless photos and letters to add to our family tree:

  • A 1951 photo my grandfather thanks to Jeff, Jack, Beth, and Nancy
  • A wedding photo of my grandfather and grandmother thanks to Mark
  • A wedding photo of Aunt Gertrude and Uncle Norman thanks to Becky
  • Quality photos of family gravesites thanks to Beth
  • Chapman Cottage is the name of the B&B once the Lucas home, thanks to Janet.
  • Wanda’s letter with the words to the Slovak song my Dad sings from Becky
  • Family photos and letters from Jeff

I found evidence that John Elsik (my great-grandfather) had a brother Joseph. The Elsik spelling of the surname is just one of several links I found. Also, Beth sent me a photo of Joseph’s gravestone, which was helpful.

I now believe that the reason I never knew of or met my Aunt Mary is that she moved to Corpus Cristi, Texas. Jeff suggests this possibility.

In addition to the New York Elcik’s (Ilcik), there are Texas Elcik’s (Elsik) to be researched. There is even a high school in Huston, Texas named after an Elsik.

My thanks to everyone who has helped with this update of the 2008 “My Cousins” tree.

But a special thank you to Beth. She has enthusiastically shared in my craziness for several weeks now.

All my love,

John, IV

P.S. Guest privileges will continue forever at Ancestry.com for all who are interested. If you need the invite for the family tree to be resent or want to gain access for someone else, let me know. My World Explorer subscription to Ancestry.com is expiring, so Internet updates will be less frequent as I first record them locally with Family Tree Maker.

P.P.S. Nancy is putting together additional items for me. And if anyone else has more to offer, well, I will be grateful.