Category: Purrington

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Re: Questions & Answers

 
 
Fri 10/9/2020 10:52 AM

You’re missing my Goddard family tree.  My mother’s maiden name was Goddard.  It also includes Croteau and Dearnley’s families, which is my grandmother Goddard’s family.  Her maiden name was Croteau, and my great grandmother’s family is Dearnley.  The Dearnley tree goes back to the 1700s, and they were from England.  The Croteau family tree goes back to the 1800s, and they were from Canada.  I traced the Goddard family back to the 1600s.  I have a lot of pictures in the Goddard family tree.

 
I originally told you I spent 2 years researching my Purinton family tree.  That’s partly true.  That included the Goddard and Day family trees.  I did quite a lot of the Gamache and Byras family trees during that time as well.  As you know, the Elcik family tree has been difficult with some roadblocks.  I’m very anxious to talk to Eugene Elcik again.  He talked about getting together, and I hope that’ll happen soon.  The Karkos family has intrigued me too.  It’s a never-ending search for more information!!!
 
I’ll wait for you to send the new Flash Drive before I send the other one back.  I’ll include the other one you sent me with my information on it.  I have lots of work to do with that before I’m done.  
 
Beth
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Re: Your Elcik Family Tree Questions

 
Fri 10/9/2020 10:17 PM

John, IV,

OK, now I have to go BACK to St. Cyril cemetery and take ANOTHER picture??!!  I will do that.  Then we’ll have a picture of Helen B. Kozak Mosco Elcik’s gravestone.  I understand that it’s probably Helen B. Mosko I’m looking for.  I’ll look for Mosko and Kozak names to be on the safe side.  I thought Nancy said her grandfather married “old lady Dutko,” but she could have said, “old lady Mosko” for all I know.  You have the proof with the marriage certificate.  GAWD, I need to talk to Eugene Elcik again.  Hopefully, he can clear this up and also the Paul Joseph Elcik mystery.  

This is the same thing I went through with my Purinton family.  There were 3 generations of Humphrey Purinton’s marrying women named Thankful.  Yeah, I know I told you that before!!!!  That was a complete nightmare for me because each generation had 11 and 12 children, and I had to connect the right Humphrey and Thankful to my family.  No wonder I don’t sleep at night!!!!
 
Don’t forget the Karkos question about Mary and Anna Pelcarsky being sisters.  That’s a work in progress as well.  
 
You keep writing, and I’ll keep searching!!
 
Beth
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Re: Doctors Appointments

 
Wed 10/14/2020 5:13 PM
 
John, IV,
 
My doctor’s appointments went well.  I’m waiting for the hospital to schedule a stress test my cardiologist recommended.  Blood pressure, Blood work was all good, but there’s a gray area where they need to find out why I’m having shortness of breath after walking, going up a flight of stairs, etc.  We’re not sure if it’s coming from my neck or is a cardio issue.  We need to rule that out at this point.
 
I start PT tomorrow and am hoping that’ll help.  I’ve done this in the past, and it always does.  I’m anxious to get started.
 
I’m fine helping you with the eBook.  I wish we could figure out the Elcik family, especially if the Durham and Lisbon Falls Elciks are related somehow and if John and Joseph are brothers.  When I talked to Gene Elcik today, he said at the time the Slovak/Czechs began migrating to this country, Hitler was in power, and all those records were destroyed.  That’s why there aren’t any records available.  I just remembered someone else who may be able to help.  Her name is Patsy Armstrong (married name).  Her grandmother was Mary Elcik, your grandfather John’s sister.  Mary married Mike Dutko.  They had 3 children, Helen, Regina, and Mary.  Patsy’s mother was Helen.  She lives down the st from us.  I called her way back when about the Elcik family.  She may know the connection to Paul Joseph Elcik Sr, Paul Joseph Elcik Jr., and Mary A Elcik (not your grandfather’s sister Mary.)  Have I told you before that I drive myself “CRAZY” with this stuff!!!!
 
I also need to finish my Purinton/Day/Goddard family tree on Family Tree Maker.  I want to print it, but I am not totally familiar with how I want to do that.  I was working on that when we connected, and I went back to the Elcik/Byras/Gamache trees.  I had done a lot of that before we got involved, but I DO want to finish.  I get bogged down with technology, and then frustration sets in.  
 
If only I were as smart as you!!
 
Beth
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Re: It’s All About the Name

Sat 12/19/2020 11:17 PM
John, IV,
I LOVE this letter, and I LOVE your writing style.  I love to read; you love to write, so we make a good pair!!!  Obviously, your family wants to keep first family names going in each generation.  That’s interesting because we named our children Loni Beth Gamache and Derek John Gamache.
I have 3 brothers.  My oldest brother’s name is Carl Russell Purinton, and he named his son Russell Purinton (I don’t know his middle name).  My grandfather’s name was Carl Russell Purinton.  My second oldest brother’s name is Lewis Goddard Purinton.  My great grandfather on my mother’s side was Lewis Benson Goddard.  My name is Elizabeth Leola Purinton.  My mother’s sister’s name was Leola, and my father’s 1st cousin’s name was Elizabeth.  My youngest brother’s name is Allan Norman Purinton.  My father’s name was Norman Allan Purinton.
Knowing your family’s decision to naming your children, etc., I understand trying to stay with family names and passing them on to the next generation.  As I read your letter to Jeff, I was shaking my head, acknowledging our family did the same thing.
My theory is most families did that, especially after doing family research on Ancestry and ESPECIALLY the Elcik family.   That’s one of the reasons we’ve been having so much difficulty trying to figure out who’s who to say nothing about records being destroyed, which makes it impossible to locate documents before they came to this country.
I’ve said this before; I had the same problem with the Purinton family with so many Humphrey Purintons marrying women named Thankful (there were 3 consecutive generations of them).  Not only that, several of them named their daughters Thankful, further confusing me when they got married and their last names were different.

I found your letter to Jeff very interesting and fun to read, albeit confusing at times because I don’t know your family like I do mine.  I even chuckled a few times as I was reading it.  It was a source of entertainment for me, and I mean that in a very good way.

Thanks for sharing it with me.

Beth

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Re: Ouch!

Sun 1/31/2021 10:48 PM
John, IV
WOW, WOW, WOW!!!  No, I didn’t catch the “y” theory.  I saw the Ilycsik spelling many times, but nothing clicked.  How in the world will you ever figure this out??  

 
Maybe you should take the sabbatical and return when you’re more rested.  If you’re like me, the sabbatical won’t happen until you’re done.  I feel your pain because I did that with my Purinton family tree.  I spent many sleepless nights then, and I’ve done it with the Elcik family as well.
 
There is something seriously wrong with us!!!
 
Beth
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DNA Tests Status Report

Sun 1/10/2021 1:20 PM
Beth,
I’m still reviewing DNA results.  First, some statistics:
There were:
  • 27,890 matches
  • 25,890 distant matches
  • 1,999 close matches (4th cousin or closer
More significantly, my Ancestry.com test found 47 matches where I share a “common ancestor.”   This standard menu option filters DNA tests for those that link the DNA test with their family tree.
Did you notice when you filter by Common Ancestor that in the 3rd column, there is a HINT leaf next to the words Common Ancestor? The leaf icon is below the family tree icon that identifies the number of people in the selected individual’s tree.  Clicking on the icon has provided the extra help that I needed to identify more individuals.  It isn’t always easy as privacy still protects living people.
Also, it would be helpful if you would link Jack’s DNA to your tree. Even better yet, I would love for you to connect your DNA to your tree.  The latter might allow us to discover the additional theoretical link between Purrington’s in the Skillin family tree and Purinton’s in your family tree.
Yesterday, I received the results from a second DNA test I took with MyHeritage.  My ethnicity results are different enough that I need to do more research to understand them.
  • Europe: Irish, Scottish, and Welsh, 40.9%
  • East European, 30.0%
  • Balkan, 17.9%
  • Ashkenazi Jewish, 8.0%
  • Iberian, 3.2%

GENETIC GROUPS

  • French Canadians in Canada (Quebec) and the USA (Maine)
  • French settlers in Canada (Quebec) and the USA (New England)
  • USA (New England) and Eastern Canada

The increase in Irish, Scottish, and Welsh percentage is surprising.  Also, mentioning French Canadians for the second time is a surprise. I need to compare these results with my brother Jeff’s 23andMe test.

MyHeritage came up with 4,625 DNA Matches.  Only one close match and two extended family matches. I have yet to compare this with Ancestries results, but I will.

CLOSE MATCHES
EXTENDED FAMILY

My preliminary conclusion is that the Ancestry test is proving more straightforward to use and likely will be more useful. It will be interesting to see if I still feel this way after a couple of weeks of analyzing the results.

John, IV