8/7/20 11:06 AM (GMT-05:00)
Rebecca <rkashmerdavis@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Stories
Marvelous! I think a picture of the cover and a short story needs to be added to the tree. What do you think?
John, IV
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Category: – Dr. John Elcik, IV
Our European Ancestors
Fri 8/7/2020 11:16 AM
Everyone,
The Elcik’s in our Family tree can be said to originate from Western Europe. Their responses in Census reports, etc. may be due as much to economics and politics as to specific geography. How they identified is as follows: Czech Republic (14), Austria (13), Austria-Hungary (4), Hungary (4), Slovakia (4), and Austria-Slovakia (3).
My father always said we came here from Czechoslovakia even though our immigration came before its creation.
“The creation of Czechoslovakia in 1918 was the culmination of the long struggle of the Czechs against their Austrian rulers and of the Slovaks against Hungarisation and their Hungarian rulers.”
My question: Is it Czech or Slovak? I know they spoke Slovak. ?
Someday I hope to have enough information for at least an online search of European ancestors. That journey needs a hint or two to begin. Can any of us suggest a town to investigate?
Based on the spelling of Elcik as Elsik in the 1910 Federal Census, I believe the surname spelling to research is Elsik.
Suggestions? Anyone?
John, IV
Family History
Fri 8/7/2020 11:19 AM
Jeff,
That is very interesting. There are a lot of Elcik and Elsik families In Texas. It raises research questions for me to pursue.
Did you ever meet her?
Thanks,
Your brother
A Texas Connection?
08/07/2020 11:34 AM
Cousins, etc.,
I’ve been making a big deal out of the fact that John, Sr. and his presumed brother Joseph spelled our surname Elsik.
Jeff has shared with me that he thinks Aunt Mary moved to Corpus Christi, Texas.
From my research, I know that there are quite a few Elcik and Elsik families in Texas.
“Alief Elsik High School is a high school in the Alief region of Houston, Texas, United States. Elsik High is divided into two campuses: the main campus, and the Alief Elsik Ninth Grade Center, which serves ninth graders.”
Is there a connection with us? Inquiring minds want to know. 🙂
John
P.S. It is not “inquiring minds want to know” It’s Enquiring minds want to know,” and it was the play on words of the National Enquirer magazine slogan.
A Family Mystery?
Fri, Aug 7, 2020, at 12:17 PM
Cousins, etc.,
Is there is a relation that connects the waves of Elcik (Elick, Elsik) families that immigrated to America in the 1880s? I can connect two as being us. We share a common heritage (Austria/Hungary/Slovakia), surname, and given names; specifically, John and James. We all settled initially in Lisbon Falls or Durham, Maine. Those that eventually went on to New York are part of the group I’m researching to see if a link exists.
- John Elsik (Austria) (1866-1941) – My Great-Grandfather (Sr.) arrived here in 1891, 5-years before my Grandfather is born.
- John P Elcik (1896-1963) – My Grandfather (Jr.)
- John Paul Elcik (1928-2011) – My Father (III)
- John Paul Elcik (1952-) – Myself (IV)
- John Paul Elcik (1986-) – My son (V)
I can’t yet place the following family:
- John Ilcik (16 MAR 1886-05 SEP 1962)
- Andrew John Ilcik (26 OCT 1911-04 APR 1951)
- John J. Elcik (5 AUG 1945-15 SEP 2018) (New York John’s Grandfather)
- James G. Elcik (26 JAN 1934)
- John Elcik (New York John, my contact)
- Nickolas Elcik (2001)
John Ilcik (Slovakia) (1886-1962); There is only a 10-year age difference between this individual and my Grandfather. I think families are related, but I don’t have evidence. I suspect the link exists in Europe.
I would dismiss this as an Ellis Island spelling mistake except for New York John, and I see a family resemblance in some photos. We may decide to take DNA tests as…
Curiosity killed the cat satisfaction brought it back. 🙂
Any thoughts?
John, IV
P.S. And then there is another John Elcik (22 DEC 1931- 14 APR 2019) that I can’t place anywhere. Beth, it is these facts that could drive me crazy. 🙂 Have I mentioned that there are other ways to spell John? Johann, Jan. Am I crazy?
Backups
Fri, Aug 7, 2020, at 12:34 PM
Beth,
Would you like to have copies of my backup files? I would send you both the GEDCOM file to import a new tree, and a copy of the Family Tree Maker file, including sources, images, documents, and web links.
I feel that the more individuals that have access to our work, the better.
I feel blessed that you use both Ancestry and Family Tree Maker.
John, IV
Bird Book
Fri 8/7/2020 4:58 PM
Beth,
I should have led by observing that 80% or more of family trees limit themselves to photos of gravesites. Very sad.
John, IV
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