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Condolences


Monday, July 20, 2020, 04:30:25 PM

Judy,

My condolences about Uncle.

Despite that sadness, your news otherwise makes me very happy!

I have been working for three weeks with a “distant” relative (John Elcik of Rocky Point, New York) and just relayed to him our story. I have been building out his branch of the tree (just as I did for us) in anticipation of finding a connection somewhere. I may not be able to find proof he is related. John’s grandfather immigrated to America later than my Great grandfather did. John had suggested he would be interested in a DNA test and repeated the offer. So I told him about our experience. It was earlier today. Timing, God is laughing at me. At least I hope so.

I don’t know what will happen, but in my heart, all three of us are family.

Warmest regards,

John

 

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DNA Story Update

Monday, July 20, 2020, 7:38 PM

Subject: DNA Story Update

John, NY,

Just moments ago, I got an update from Judy.

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Hello John

Well, I did some house cleaning, and I found my dad’s Y DNA certificate. See attachment.

So I will be keeping in touch. I cannot get any more of my father’s Y DNA, so through what we have and mutations, yes, we are distant relatives. My grandmother and grandfather were also 6th cousins.

[unrelated info left out – Editor]

All the best,

Judy

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I think God is laughing at me. He is pleased, of course.

Warmest regards,

John, FL

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Lisbon Falls Is Home to All Elcik’s


Mon 7/20/2020 7:46 PM

Judy,

Yes, for the last 10+ years. We lived for the longest time in Ohio. The truth is my Dad was in the Navy, and we traveled a lot: Japan, the Philippines, Guam as Children. After every trip, we always came home to Lisbon Falls, Maine.

Aside from the shared surname, John (NY) shares a Lisbon Falls connection. His Grandfather lived there until the Great depression when he left for New York to find work. My grandmother and others lived in Meriden, Connecticut.

John

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Trying to Sell Judy on Using Facebook


Mon 7/20/2020 7:55 PM

Judy,

I know you are a technical wizard, so I have to ask, Do you use Facebook? If so, we should connect on their platform. I have recently reconnected with several relatives after decades of neglect. It is fun! I was never a fan of Facebook, but in retirement and being hard of hearing, it has become a hobby.

One warning, myself, friends, and several family members are conservative. California living, you may have become corrupted by the “Progressives.”

Lol.

John

[There appears to be no middle ground with Facebook. One is a user or not a user. Ask Nancy. As for me, I recently elected to become a user, but not a fan.  The platform is built more for friends than family. Maybe I will submit enhancement requests. – Editor]

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Background Information

July 21, 2020

Beth,

My site combines all the trees. Your practice of smaller trees makes better sense. The Skillin (Mom’s side) just blew mine up. Somehow I got a lot of ancient records. I’m investigating. 🙂

You show the father of John P. Elcik, Jr. (married to Mary Byras) to be Andrew Walker Elcik (1925-2000). Working off the 1910 Census, I concluded that John, Jr.’s father to be John Elsik (1866-1941) Sr. What do you think? The spouse for John, Sr. is giving me a headache. Two names: Mary Jonek and Mary Helen Parcheky, are candidates, but dates are part of the problem. Still researching. Several Stories show my journey that can be found in the Gallery on my record.

My current operating theory is that there have been at least three waves of immigrants arriving in America with the same or similar surnames.

  1. John Elcik (1886-1982) married to Mary Jeho Zena Jonek (1887-1951). John immigrated in 1905, and Mary immigrated a year later in 1906.) Ancestry says John is the husband of a great-aunt.
  2. John Elsik (1866-1941) married Mary Helen Parcheky (1875-1936) through whom I, Dad, and John, Jr. are descended. In the 1910 Census, he changed the name from Elsik to Elcik for everyone but himself. John Immigrated in 1891 and Mary in 1896. 2 sources verify both immigrations. Ancestry says John is my great-grandfather.
  3. Andrew J. Elcik (1911-1995) married Jeannie Pascarella through whom many of the New York Elcik’s are descended. He came to America through Elis Island in the late ’30s or early ’40s, and the name was changed to Elcik from Ilcik. Ancestry has found no family links. He could be “stepson of a great-aunt,” I am still researching.

Confused yet? I believe all three families will be shown as related, if and when we “jump the pond” to Europe. We all come from Europe (Austria/Hungry), spoke Slovak, and had a Catholic upbringing.

Another item of interest. The name was spelled Elcik in the 1910 Census but was spelled Elick in the 1930 and 1940 Censuses. The 1950 Census has yet to be published. I need to change them to Elcik as the preferred spelling, but several records may still show Elick. I plan on leaving Elcik, Sr. as Elsik as it is the spelling that I hope to get results with outside the U.S.

I’m showing Andrew W. Elcik, Jr. (1953-2016) as my 2nd Cousin and Andrew John Elcik (1911-1951) as the stepson of a great-aunt. This is an ideal example to show the difficulties that similar names cause us. Andrew J. Elcik (18 Nov 1911-16 MAR 1995) and Andrew John Elcik (26 OCT 1911-04 APR 1951) is an actual research problem for me. Andrew J. is the grandfather of my Elcik contact in New York, while Andrew John Elcik is a known relative. Thus, I have just told the New York John Elcik that I can’t show a family connection, yet. But I am having fun.

I sent you two pictures and 3 documents through the mail. I don’t think documents can be exchanged within Ancestry’s new Messenger service.

John, IV

P.S. Someday, ask me about my DNA story.

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DNA Testing

DNA


Tue, Jul 21, 2020, at 8:29 PM

Judy,

Ouch! I feel your pain.

Educate me. Which test do you want to do?

I had been looking at the Family Tree tests until you had such a bad experience. They also had been at the top of my list as they appear to have more Slovak DNA than the other big names. Relatively, few Europeans take DNA tests with our American companies. Or so I’m told.

Does Ancestry offer one test, or do they have options?

How is the new test different? What results are you looking for?

Warmest regards,

John