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Keri Lucas Offered Help

Sat, 30 May 2009 9:09 pm

Keri,

We would be pleased to help. I remember your grandparents very fondly. The massive home that housed so many cousins, which they had in Old Orchard Beach, was very special to my brothers and me.

And while I didn’t get to see my cousins often because our Dad was in the Navy, I nevertheless do have unforgettable memories. Who are your Mom and Dad?

I have been working on a book which I call “My Cousins.” The book, because of graphics, is 7 MB; I don’t think AOL will let me send you a file this big. But if you will provide us a snail mail address, I’ll send you a copy.

As a software developer, I have used all the major players; the best software is Family Tree Maker by Ancestory.com. It simplifies research considerably.

We also have had both of our children: J.P. & Michelle’s DNA tested through Ancestry.com. Interesting technology.

And finally, I have been working on a family website. I have your grandmother’s obituary on the site. [This site no longer exists. Instead, the new URL is https://mycousins.org – Editor]

If you know how to work on websites, I’m willing to provide you access to add to them. Either way, it was good to hear from you.

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The New York Elcik’s


Sat 8/8/2020 6:22 AM

Beth,

What follows is a composite email that tells the family story of John Elcik from New York. There is also this link to the obituary of John’s grandfather.

This text is a link to the obituary of John’s grandfather.

John Elcik Obituary – Miller Place, NY – Dignity Memorial
Visitation. Monday, September 17, 2018. Mass of Christian Burial. Tuesday, September 18, 2018. Committal Service. Tuesday, September 18, 2018
www.dignitymemorial.com

Enjoy!

John. IV

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Hi John,

I can see we share the same name. My dad’s name was John Elcik Sr. He recently died in September, and his brother’s name is Andrew Elcik! My grandfather was Andrew Elcik, and he was from Lisbon Falls, Maine; born in 1911, he eventually settled in Queens, New York, and then my father came out to Long Island, where I live now!

However, one of the first things I did immediately notice is that my great grandfather also worked at the Pejepscot Paper Mill to supplement his income as a farmer. I also believe before he came to NYC in 1932, my grandfather Andrew Elcik also worked briefly at the paper mill. I hope you are well, and I will be in touch.

My grandfather Andrew Elcik was born here in Lisbon Falls, Maine, in 1911 (died 1995 on Long Island), and it was my great grandfather John Ilcik who came here thru Ellis Island in the early 1900s (don’t have an exact date but early 1900’s). All they know is it was spelled Ilcik in Europe (Austria Hungarian empire what is now the Czech Republic ). It was changed by mistake at Ellis Island when they just put it down wrong ( not on Purpose ).

I was always told we were Slovak and Not Czech, and my grandfather Andrew and Great grandfather spoke the language.

As I shared with you on Facebook, my father is John Elcik, born in 1943 in Queens, NY, and died in 2018, and you have the correct year of 1962, when I believe my great grandfather died. If you did not see it on Facebook, my grandfather Andrew Elcik came to NYC in approx. Between 1929 – 1932 because he could not find work at the paper mill anymore due to the great depression. He ended up working for Bryers Ice cream for 40 years. He married Jeannie Pascarella around 1939 and had two sons Andrew Elcik born in 1941, and my dad John Elcik born in 1943.

My uncle is still alive but hazy about the family’s past. I wish my dad John Elcik was alive because he could help solve this mystery. My uncle Andrew Elcik had three children: Christine, born 1965, Andrew born 1967, and Jaqueline, born 1970 or 71.

We have pictures of my great grandparents and grandfather from Lisbon Falls, which I Will eventually scan to you. We will eventually figure out the direct link. More to come.

In the picture with my grandfather Andrew Elcik, to the right is my grandmother Jeannie Elcik ( Born Pascarella ) and my dad John Elcik and my uncle Andrew Elcik to the left. My uncle Andrew is still alive. Everyone else in the picture is deceased.

I know it is his grave because this info provided below is true: He was born in Czechoslovakia, the son of Paul and Mary Elcik. His wife is the former Mary Jonek, whom he married in 1905. He came to the United States 58 years ago. He is predeceased by his wife, Mary, who died in 1951. [Editor’s note: This is where some of the confusion got started. Mary Jonek and Mary Pelcarsky were two different individuals. I highlighted this in red on your copy of the family tree]

He is survived by four sons Joseph of Brooklyn, NY; George of Lisbon Falls, ME; Andrew of Corona, NY; Michael of Miami, FL; a daughter Mrs. Mary King of Westville, NH; a brother Paul of Lisbon Falls, ME. He is my great grandfather.

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Durham and Beth’s Theory


Sunday, August 9, 2020, 3:11 AM

Subject: The New York Elcik’s

John,

Very puzzling. There are so many names and stories he talks about that match the Durham family across the river. [Beth is talking about your father’s obituary]

John said his great grandfather was John Ilick, and his great grandmother was Mary Jonek, which matches the gravestone.

Also, in a 1920 census, there was:

John Elcik 33, Mary Elcik 32, Joseph 12, Andrew 8, George 4 1/2, Mary J. Jr. 10/12

The survivor’s John’s talking about are:

four sons: Joseph, Andrew, George, Michael, a daughter Mary, and a brother Paul. The census doesn’t mention Michael, but he may not have been born yet.

In the gravestone pictures I sent you, there was a:

  • Paul J Elcik Sr. 1896-1970 wife Mary A Fabian 1891-1978
  • Joseph A Kinney 1909-1989 wife Mary A Elcik 1917-2008
  • Paul J Elcik Jr. 1915-1992 wife Gertrude Fournier 1918-1993

Is it possible Paul J Elcik Sr 1896-1970 maybe his great grandfather’s brother?

In looking at this, I believe the George Elcik in the 1920 census, and the obit is George Elcik, who married Jack’s father’s sister, Anna. He was born May 30, 1915, which would make him 4 1/2 in 1920.

It all fits unless I’m missing something.

Beth

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A Celebrity in the Family


Wed 8/12/2020 6:28 PM

John (NY),

John Joseph Elcik (1931) was married to a celebrity: Elizabeth Mabie Elcik

This text is a link to the article.

Elizabeth Mabie Elcik, fashion illustrator. Scholar New York City Art, 1951, Jamesine Franklin School, 1952. Member of Women’s Studio Center Inc., National Museum Women in Arts.
prabook.com

Also,

This text is a link to the second article.

John’s obituary has two locations and very little information.

This text is a link to the obituary.

This text is a link to the Book of Memories.

John, FL

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John Ilcik Obituary

Sun 9/20/2020 7:54 PM

John,

While you’ve been busy and focused on a special project, I’ve been in contact with another friend at the Historical Society. He has found an obituary for John Ilcik. I’ll forward the email to you.

I talked to a cousin of Jack’s who speaks Slovak and can interpret the meanings of the Slovak words on the gravestones. He also grew up in the neighborhood with some Karkos families.

I know you’re not on Ancestry but I am and will continue to do so. I’m trying to fill in some of the”holes” we have in the Elcik and Karkos family trees.

We’re moving on,

Beth

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Re: Karkos Kronicles


Sat 9/26/2020 5:39 PM

John, IV,

It’s interesting that you reached out to Terry L Karkos. I’ve reached out to 3 people in Lisbon Falls about the picture. The last one was just about an hour ago. She’s a neighbor of ours and her daughter babysat our children about 40 years ago. Her name is Marilyn Keamy and she said her father was Andrew Karkos. I just went to her house and dropped off the Karkos family picture plus the John S Karkos obituary I received from my friend at the HS. She’s 92, her memory is better than mine and she remembers everything about the Karkos family. I called her, told her about the picture and she proceeded to tell me stories about the 10 brothers and sisters.

I gave her 2 copies of the picture, one for her to keep and the other one she’ll write the names of the brothers and sisters and give it back to me. I’m hopeful this will solve some pieces of the puzzle. That plus your contact with Terry L Karkos is a bonus.

I’ll let you know what she says about the Karkos family picture!!

Beth