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eBook Promotion

Beth,
I used the message below to promote our eBook by posting on Facebook (temporarily restored), MeWe Social Network, and a My Cousins Group on Facebook.
Enjoy!
John, IV
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Beth Gamache and her friend Earl at the Historical Society have located the gravesite of my Great-grandparents.  The search at Saint Cyril Cemetery was initiated because of a document from Sally (Wentworth) Adams that said that they would be found in the Saint Cyril Cemetery in Lisbon Falls. She also provided us with burial dates to complement their dates of death. Earl credits these dates as being important clues.
Earl traveled to Lewiston to find the Church records and then saw to it that a photo of the gravesite and John P. Elcik (Sr.’s) obituary is posted now at FindAGrave.  See:  https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/220993637/john-p-elcik
The gravestone identifies the correct name and spelling of my Great-grandmothers’s name as Maria Anna Pelcarsky. This is a correction from Mary to Maria Anna and a confirmation of spelling for Pelcarsky.
It is historically interesting in John, Sr.’s Obituary that his parents are identified as Mr. & Mrs. John Elcik. It suggests a research question as to whether he is John Sr. or John Jr. If the latter is true, all generations of John Paul Elcik are off by one generation. This would make me the 5th and my son the 6th generation. It is a moot point but interesting to speculate.
The email correspondence between Beth, Earl, and I will be included in the MyCousins eBook.  Beth and I are still planning on a May 3rd publish date.
John, IV
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Re: eBook Promotion

Thu 1/14/2021 5:46 PM
Beth,
I didn’t notice. Wow. Is that a head-scratcher? I think so. I wonder what the Ilcik Elcik’s will think about that?
Yes, they both are on Facebook.  I didn’t remember doing it, but I created the MyCousins group on my Facebook account about 9 years ago. I’ll send you an invite.  Nothing much there. I posted this email because it adds a few subscribers to our list. 🙂 I had to resurrect my Facebook account for the second time to add Pam as an administrator to MyCousins. Now when I really retire from Facebook, I can still have the MyCousins group. 🙂 Once you are a member, I can make you an administrator too. Facebook gives you 30 days to change your mind about deleting. I have not lasted for 7 days. Lol.  
The MyCousins group might be an alternative to MeWe. What do you think?.
Two more new developments.
  • I have Mary Anna Pelcarsky’s obituary, and she DID have a sister: Anna (Pelcarsky) Karkos.  This confirms my theory that there are two connections between the Elcik and Karkos families. I will tell Terry L. Karkos and see if this inspires him to start up his website.
  • Naria Anna Pelcarsky also used the alias Mary, which makes me feel better about our past decisions.
See the attached image for confirmation of both items.
John, IV
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Re: Ilcik

Fri 1/15/2021 11:55 PM

Beth,

Did you notice just how active Earl has been? Incredible work ethic.
Yes, that IS me. What can I say? Actually, I’m speechless. Wow.  I thought I wouldn’t be surprised again, at least not right away. The surprises keep coming.
  1. Great-grandfathers’ obituary.
  2. Great-grandfather’s gravesite and Ilcik connection.
  3. Your Byrus connection.
  4. Earl’s DNA revelation.
What is next?
What fun! And you are at the center of all these discoveries. 🎉🥳
Thank you!
John, IV
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George Evanisko

Thu 1/21/2021 1:52 PM
Beth,
I know Earl is looking for Anna Elcik’s obituary for us.  However, I did find her husband after Eral was kind enough to remind me of his name.
Will you please share. Thanks in advance.
John, IV
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Correction?

Thu 1/21/2021 2:03 PM

 

Beth,

I wanted to copy Earl and Charlie on this, but I don’t have their email addresses.  Could you add them to the conversation? Please and thank you.
Charlie Hall reached out to me on Ancestry Messenger, reminding me of his association with you and Earl. Seeking to be helpful, he offered, “It looks like two Elcik brothers came to Durham, John and Joseph. On the page, you list them as siblings; you have Joseph’s daughters as siblings, also.”
After going back to the source document, I think Charlie is right. The obituary for Joseph P. Elcik [Sr.] upon which we relied does say the girls were John and Joseph’s sisters. But in seeking confirmation, the first two men identified as spouses belong to Joseph’s daughters.
Joseph Elcik’s daughters are:
  • Elizabeth A. Elcik, married to Melnot M. Frank
  • Marie E. Elcik, married to Joseph Dereche
And Mrs. George Evanisko, the third reference, while first identified as a sister, is later in the Obituary referenced accurately as his daughter:
  • Anna Elcik (Mrs.) Evanisko
I was so excited by the assertion I forgot to verify.
If you agree, I believe we need to reconsider our conclusion that there were five siblings.  Instead, there are just the two brothers.
What do you think?
John, IV

PS: I wanted to copy Earl and Charlie on this, but I don’t have their email addresses.  Could you add them to the conversation? Please and thank you.

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Elcik Family Correction

Fri 1/22/2021 6:22 AM
Beth, Earl, and Charlie,
Beth shared everyone’s email with me so I could share the following.
Charlie Hall reached out to me on Ancestry Messenger, reminding me of his association with Beth and Earl. Seeking to be helpful, he offered, “It looks like two Elcik brothers came to Durham, John and Joseph. On the page, you list them as siblings; you have Joseph’s daughters as siblings, also.”
After going back to the source document, I think Charlie is right. The obituary for Joseph P. Elcik [Sr.] upon which we relied DOES say the girls were John and Joseph’s sisters. But in seeking confirmation, the first two men identified as spouses belong to Joseph’s daughters.
Joseph Elcik’s daughters are:
  • Elizabeth A. Elcik, married to Melnot M. Frank
  • Marie E. Elcik, married to Joseph Dereche
And Mrs. George Evanisko, the third reference, while first identified as a sister, is later in the Obituary referenced accurately as his daughter:
  • Anna Elcik (Mrs.) Evanisko
I was so excited by the assertion I forgot to verify.
If you agree, I believe we need to reconsider our conclusion that there were five siblings.  Instead, there are just the two brothers.
Are we all in agreement? Have I overlooked anything?
John, IV
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Re: Correction?

Sat 1/23/2021 1:48 PM
Beth,
My family is a genealogist’s nightmare. This is what I have, which I think answers your follow-up question.
It is a good thing we have a great team working on the Elcik family tree.
The obituary for Joseph P. Elcik was probably not written by a member of the family. I’m speculating now, but I can see it happening that in interviewing one of the daughters, the writer didn’t make the connection that she was talking about her sisters and not her fathers. 🤔
First, we need to remember that Joseph has a brother, my grandfather. Second, we need to go back to one of my earliest posts. As part of my evidence for their being brothers, I reported on the practice during that time in American history of brothers using the same given names for their children.  In this case, the Elcik brothers did it and hence the confusion:
Thus, there are two Elizabeth Annie Elcik’s born just a year apart.
Elizabeth Annie Elcik (1905-1988) is the daughter of John P. Elcik, Sr. (1886-1941) and Maria Anna Pelcarsky (1870-1936). She married twice. First to Joseph Louis Turcott (1901) and second to Carroll Charles Small (1900-1956). She had five children with Charles.
Elizabeth Annie Elcik (1904-1947) is the daughter of Joseph P. Elcik (1875-1938) and Elizabeth Balnick (1870-1934). She married Melnot Frank.  I don’t think they had any children.
Undoubtedly, they played together. So, who was Elizabeth, and who was Annie? Or did they use Beth, Betsie, or Ann, Ana? Inquiring minds want to know. Lol.
And that, as they say, is my story, and I’m stuck with it. Or did I miss something?
John, IV
P.S. I forgot to mention that John Sr’s daughter is the twin of his daughter Annie. And that Annie is the Annie that married George Francis Karkos.
cc: Earl, Charlie