Category: Slovak

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Re: Nursery Rhyme

Thu 1/28/2021 11:44 PM
John,
 
That was a wonderful day, and Jack and I loved having everyone at our house.  I’m so happy to have the video!  Thank you for sending it to me.
 
I don’t know if Deeb knows Slovak or not, but I know someone in Lisbon Falls who does.  He told me what the writing on the gravestones means.  I may have told you his name before, Dan Gamache, who’s related to Jack.  His grandmother lived with him and his mom, and she spoke very little English.  Dan learned Slovak as a child and still remembers and speaks it today.  He’s a great resource interpreting the Slovak language.  His dad died young, and he was an only child.
 
Thanks again for sending me the video.
 
Beth
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Hello Cousin

February 5, 2021, 9:02 AM
Good morning John,
Right from the start, I’m in Ohio, a female born under Czechoslovakia’s flag in eastern Slovakia, further East of Parchovany in Vinne. I have been going on the boards for almost 20 years.  I love to pass on the research sites and information that I know and have gathered thru the years.  Very pleased to help and to hear that you have been able to go that far.  Awesome.  Genealogy is never-ending.
Zlatica
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Re: Hello Cousin

February 5, 2021 10:00 AM

Zlatica,
Thank you for your help and for reaching out.
I guessed that you were female.  But my reasons may have been wrong.  Your Ancestry username ZlaticaBeca suggested to me that your first name might be Beca, short for Rebecca.
Is Beca your last name? And could Vladimir be a husband? If so, the only two women I know who share my interest in genealogy use their husband’s email account for genealogy. Lol.
I have had a team of helpers that I call the “fantastic four” helping me. Beth Gamache is my cousin Jack’s wife who uses his email account.  She has introduced me to others. I think they all volunteer with the Lisbon Historical Society in Maine: Charles “Charlie” Hall,  Earl Williams, and William “Bill” Cizmar.  I added the dynamic duo from the Ancestry Boards to my list of helpers, in which you are the lead volunteer.  Beth and Jack live in Lisbon, Falls, Maine. Quite by accident, we have learned that Earl is a DNA match. We are still seeking the individuals that make it so.
The Fantastic Four were providing me some of the same family information as you shared during overlapping conversations. It would have been fun to read everyone into the conversation. I didn’t think fast enough. I have had great fun and awesome helpers all along.
Beth and I are writing an eBook together called MyCousins.  It will be an expository story told through eMail, FaceBook, and LinkedIn communications with 20 contributors.  It is our journey in genealogy creating the MyCousins Family Tree.  There are over 500 posts.  We hope to self-publish to the family on a website. The goal is to do this on November 3rd, the 42nd anniversary of my wedding to Pam.
My wife Pam and I lived in Fairfield, Ohio, from 1986-2004. We have two adult children: J.P., a schoolteacher, and Michelle, a Pharmacy Tech with Walgreens. Both live nearby.  We recently celebrated my son’s wedding to Ana Del Moral.  We both “were” retired. I still am, unless you count dog sitting for my own two puppies. I do. Pam has taken a short-term position running drugs for Michelle. She delivers COVID-19 vaccinations between Walgreens stores.
I took your advice and posted the current Elcik Brick Wall on the Slovakia Ancestry Board. What do you think?
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Re: Hello Cousin

Fri 2/5/2021 1:50 PM
Ahoj bratranec,
When my e-mail was set up, it was set up under my husband’s first name Vladimir. BECA is his surname. He has his own e-mail. Neither of us goes into each other’s account.
I still have siblings and distant relatives in Vinne. Husband had a brother and a sister, but both passed away, so only nieces and nephews.
 
I’m not on FACEBOOK or any social media but e-mail.  
Congratulation on the e-book.  Exciting.
I went on the Slovakia Ancestry board and see that you have a query on there. I like that you also included the Slovak spelling of a surname.  Keep in mind that if the priest was not of Magyar ancestry, he most likely was not sure as to how to put a Slavic/Slovak surname into proper Magyar spelling. You might see ILYCSIK, which would be  IĽČÍK, and also you can see ILCSIK or ILCZIK.
In Magyar, LY would be the  Ľ sound in Slovak. In Vranov, we find both spellings:  IĽČÍK  and ILČÍK, but they are different pronunciation unless the spelling is wrong in the phone book.
 
My father was born in 1920, and his birth record does not show up in the Family Search. Some privacy law.  Possible that your Pal’s birth record was filmed, but if on that roll a record falls under privacy law, then the whole roll off the Family Search. Suppose Pal Ilysik (Pavol Ilcik) and Janos Ilscik (Jan Ilcik) were from the same location Parchovany than possibly some relationship. It cannot be ILSCIK but ILCSIK – Magyar grammar. It can be ILSZIK.
Zlatica 
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Re: Hello Cousin

Fri 2/5/2021 2:52 PM
Zlatica,
You are a goldmine of wonderful information. Lol.
I have been researching, and your name is “derived from the Czech/Slovak element, zlata meaning “gold.” The suffix of -ica is a popular one among feminine Slavic names denoting something small and feminine. Zlatuska (zlah-TOOSH-kah), and Zlatka, can either be used as a nickname or variation. The name also coincides with the Czech/Slovak word for the buttercup flower.” In the Southern Slavic languages, it just means “gold.”
Ok, Goldie. I will abandon my search for your social media.  I had found one Facebook account that I thought might be a possibility: Zlatica Bečková Nová. Lol. My question for you would have been, “did you visit the following?
Trenčín Region
Visited on August 5, 2014

Nitra Region

Visited on July 9, 2013

 
I once spend hours (days) looking for a Facebook account for my first cousin, Nancy Kashmer Gamache, on an indirect challenge from her brother Jack.  He said she would have the best family photos. Eventually, Beth ratted on Jack. Nancy also only uses email. 
I’ve tried twice to stop using Facebook.  It is an addiction, second only to genealogy. 
John, IV
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Re: Goldie

Fri 2/5/2021 11:04 PM
John,

After reading the explanations of Slovak names’ spelling and especially upon their arrival at Ellis Island, it makes sense to me the different spellings of Elcik/cikIlcrik on gravestones.  Possibly both Ilciks, your great grandfather, and John NY’s great grandfather used that spelling when they lived in this country.  
 
I now think the “y” was dropped depending on who was writing it, especially at Ellis Island.  The birthdates are what’s important and linking them to the correct parent.  
I’m still baffled as to why we can’t link the NY Elciks and our Elciks, and I’m convinced somewhere, and somehow there’s an answer.  
Beth