Category: – Dr. John Elcik, IV

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Re: Elcik Genealogy

Tue 1/26/2021 11:18 AM
Charlie,
I could easily harbor some feelings of envy for reasons that you might relate to.
All my cousins grew up and stayed in their local hometowns in Maine. The Gamache family in Lisbon Falls and the Lucas family in Old Orchard Beach/York, Maine. For most of my childhood, I relocated every several years. And as an adult, the moves were more often than I would have wished for.
The John and Madeline Lucas family has seven children (my first cousins) and lived in a huge house.  In contrast to my father’s Navy career, I thought I would put down roots in a small town and have a large family. I also wanted a multi-generational home. Lol.
A historical note is appropriate. The large house I envied was the Lucas family home. In August 2012, it became the York Harbor Inn’s newest luxury property: Chapman Cottage and Tavern. It is on my to-do list to stay there someday.
Interestingly, my wife Pam’s family is smaller than mine.  And she and our two children are quite enough. I am grateful that we all live within a few minutes of each other.  If Pam agreed, I would have become a DIY guy and built a “tiny” home. She won’t, and I haven’t. Are you familiar with the concept? That is a significant change in direction. Lol.
John, IV
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Another Surprise

Tue 1/26/2021 3:26 PM
Team,
Pam has been working on our garage and the expensive storage unit that we rent for the overflow. The goal is to do away with the storage unit.
Yesterday she found a box with real family treasures.
Clyde Raymond Skillin, Sr. my maternal grandfather, was a garage mechanic.  He also wrote poetry. I’m attaching the poem he wrote when his son was born. I thought it was the only poem to have survived. But, I was wrong. Pam found a box with some three dozen of his poems.  Those that have seen my garage know that this is a miracle.  The storage unit is worse.
Several poems are written on the back of a Mechanics Daily Time Distribution sheet. And I have some work cut out to get them typed as most are written in pencil and somewhat faded. Nevertheless, I see a book of poetry getting self-published as part of my journey.
Whistling Dixie for Charlie. [A reference to his “southern” family.]
John. IV
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A Data Entry Question

Wed, January 27, 2021, 4:20 AM

Beth,

A discussion item for us is how to do the data entry of the new names.

I would like to have it so that a query of Elcik in the List of All People gets all the Elcik’s.

At the same time, We now have variations in the name for:

  • American name
  • Baptismal name
  • Slovak name

I propose the following to get the sort right and keep the historical data as well.

Not only will the Elcik’s all appear using this strategy, but the variations will appear sorted at the end.

You can see what I mean by doing a sort on the MyCousins Tree.

What do you think?

John, IV

Listing #First NameSurnameRelationship

1

Pal (Pavol, Paul) Elcik (IIycsik, Ilcik) NY John Elcik’s Great-Great-Grandfather

2

Maria Pelcsarszki (Pelcarska)#1’s spouse (Not our Pelcarsky, but probably related)

3

John (Janos, Jan) Elcik (Ilscik, Ilcik) NY John Elcik’s Great-Grandfather

4

Maria Elcik (Ilycsik, Ilcik) Sibling of #3

5

Anna Elcik (Ilycsik, Ilcik) Sibling of #3

6

Pavol (Paul) Elcik (Ilycsik, Ilcik)Sibling of #3

7

Janos Elcik (Ilycsik, Ilcik)My Great-Great-Grandfather

8

Elizabeth

(Erzsebet, Alzbeta)

Baron (Baran)#7’s spouse

9

George (Gyorgy) Elcik (Ilscik, Ilcik) Sibling of #10

10

John (Janos, Jan) Elcik (Ilcik, Ilcik, Elsik) My Great-Grandfather

11

Anna Elcik (Ilscik, Ilcik) Sibling of #10

12

Joseph P. (Jozsef) Elcik (Elsik, Ilcsik, Ilcik) Sibling of #10

 

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One More Thing

Wed 1/27/2021 4:47 AM
Everybody,
While Beth and I are entering new individuals into our family trees, I picked up on something I missed in my excitement.
First, we add one whole generation to the family tree, and we have additional siblings to add for the Great-Grandparents.  Both are awesome discoveries.
We also confirmed the only theory we had regarding which town the family immigrated from, Parchovany, Trebisov, Slovakia. We also added another town: Zbehnov. This will be a huge plus for additional research.
Two questions, however, I think remain to be asked and answered.
What is the relationship between Pal Ilysik (Pavol Ilcik) and Janos Ilscik (Jan Ilcik)?
Was this stated, and I missed it?
And finally, am I John IV or John V? My head hurts on this one. Lol.
What do you think?
John, IV
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Re: A Data Entry Question

Wed, Jan 27, 2021, at 3:54 PM
Beth,
I hope I’m not frustrating you by overthinking this naming question.
First, there are six basic options:
  1. My original proposal using all derivatives of the surname.
  2. Use the spelling most likely used at the time of birth.
  3. Using the oldest surname, i.e., Ilycsik
  4. Using the Slovak version, i.e., Ilcik
  5. Using the first surname recorded in America Esik and Ilick as appropriate
  6. Use today’s spelling, Elcik for the surname, and localized spelling of first names.
I suppose that the answer could vary by generation, but that gives me a headache.
I’m wondering if it is ok to consider our audience and use Elcik and the American spelling of first names for the tree. The rationale would be that the software itself calls the name: the “preferred” name.
The history of the surname could be dealt with three ways:
  • LifeStory article
  • Notation in the birth, baptismal, or death records as the surname evolves
  • Record a research note for each individual
I would do all three and provide you with a copy of the LifeStory article if that’s all you wanted to be done for your copy of the Elcik tree.
What do you think?
John, IV