Category: – Beth (Purinton) Gamache

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Re: A Data Entry Question

Thu 1/28/2021 7:20 AM
John,
 
Now that we have new information from Deeb about the Elcik and Ilcik families, I spent last night moving people around in my Elcik and Gamache family trees.  As I was doing that, I realized we still don’t have a DNA connection to link the two families.  Before now, I was positive there was a connection, and now I’m sad to say, I don’t think there is, at least not an obvious one.  It just seems with the same surnames; there should be.  You asked are we missing something?  I’ve tried many times to answer that question and always come up with the same answer: sadly, NO.  
 
What uncle are you talking about? Who ran cigarettes between FL and NY????
 
Beth
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Re: Nursery Rhyme

Thu 1/28/2021 11:44 PM
John,
 
That was a wonderful day, and Jack and I loved having everyone at our house.  I’m so happy to have the video!  Thank you for sending it to me.
 
I don’t know if Deeb knows Slovak or not, but I know someone in Lisbon Falls who does.  He told me what the writing on the gravestones means.  I may have told you his name before, Dan Gamache, who’s related to Jack.  His grandmother lived with him and his mom, and she spoke very little English.  Dan learned Slovak as a child and still remembers and speaks it today.  He’s a great resource interpreting the Slovak language.  His dad died young, and he was an only child.
 
Thanks again for sending me the video.
 
Beth
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Re: Suggestion

Sun 1/31/2021 10:29 PM

John,

It makes sense and should make it easier for people to understand the different spellings.  It’s interesting to me the spelling “Ilcik” on the gravestones of your great grandfather and NY John Elcik’s grandfather.  I questioned at first if there was a connection, and my instinct was right.
 
FYI, I put the copy of your dad and Uncle Richard’s video singing the Nursery Rhyme on a flash drive and gave it to Dan Gamache yesterday.  I’m hoping he can interpret the song and the other one they sang into English.  I haven’t heard anything yet and will let you know when I do.  I think he’s the best and possibly only hope of finding out.
 
Fingers crossed that I’m right,
 
Beth
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Re: Ouch!

Sun 1/31/2021 10:48 PM
John, IV
WOW, WOW, WOW!!!  No, I didn’t catch the “y” theory.  I saw the Ilycsik spelling many times, but nothing clicked.  How in the world will you ever figure this out??  

 
Maybe you should take the sabbatical and return when you’re more rested.  If you’re like me, the sabbatical won’t happen until you’re done.  I feel your pain because I did that with my Purinton family tree.  I spent many sleepless nights then, and I’ve done it with the Elcik family as well.
 
There is something seriously wrong with us!!!
 
Beth
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Re: Goldie

Fri 2/5/2021 11:04 PM
John,

After reading the explanations of Slovak names’ spelling and especially upon their arrival at Ellis Island, it makes sense to me the different spellings of Elcik/cikIlcrik on gravestones.  Possibly both Ilciks, your great grandfather, and John NY’s great grandfather used that spelling when they lived in this country.  
 
I now think the “y” was dropped depending on who was writing it, especially at Ellis Island.  The birthdates are what’s important and linking them to the correct parent.  
I’m still baffled as to why we can’t link the NY Elciks and our Elciks, and I’m convinced somewhere, and somehow there’s an answer.  
Beth