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Re: Nursery Rhyme

Thu 1/28/2021 11:44 PM
John,
 
That was a wonderful day, and Jack and I loved having everyone at our house.  I’m so happy to have the video!  Thank you for sending it to me.
 
I don’t know if Deeb knows Slovak or not, but I know someone in Lisbon Falls who does.  He told me what the writing on the gravestones means.  I may have told you his name before, Dan Gamache, who’s related to Jack.  His grandmother lived with him and his mom, and she spoke very little English.  Dan learned Slovak as a child and still remembers and speaks it today.  He’s a great resource interpreting the Slovak language.  His dad died young, and he was an only child.
 
Thanks again for sending me the video.
 
Beth
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Re: One More Thing

Sat 1/30/2021 7:05 PM
Earl,
Thank you for sharing the surname and location; both will be helpful.
Based on “Fantastic Four” discoveries, the Elcik/Elsik/Ilcik surname I’m looking for in Europe is spelled Ilycsik. You are one of the ALL-STAR team that for me includes Beth Gamache, Charles “Charlie” Hall, and William “Bill” Cizmar.  You rock.
Eventually, we will pin down the individuals connecting us. I have a good feeling about this getting done.
John, IV
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Suggestion

Sun 1/31/2021 1:14 AM
Beth,
I do like our decision to use the American version of the surnames in the family tree.
However, I would like to suggest that for the 12 names in Deeb’s discovery, we add an * at the end of the surname.
Example: Elcik*, Pelcarsky*, Baron*
When I write the LifeStory, it will be easy to tell users to look for the “*” in our trees. They will be told that the * means (Ilycsik, Ilcik).  Or we could go broader as say that the “*” means the name has been Americanized and use this technique anywhere we choose.
When you search for Elcik in the “List of all People,” the search will find the “*” and places these Elcik “people” at the end of the list as a group. Ancestry changed the name of the List. It used to be “List of All Individuals.” Lol.
John, IV
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Ouch!

Sun 1/31/2021 6:47 AM
Beth,
I believe that I am getting old, senile, or both.
 
I am sure that this does not come as a surprise to you, and just as sure what I will share with you next is not a surprise to anyone but me.
 
My last email stated that I had downloaded 95 files for 45 Ilycsik’s and their spouses.  All was going well until I decided to add some of this newfound data to FamilySerach.org. I added the information on Pavlov Ilycsk and Maria Pelcarszki and their four children.  Sweet. All is going well. Janos Elcsik and Erzsebet Baran and their four children are next. Ouch. Did you catch it? I didn’t. In fact, I have been oblivious to it all along.  
Remember how you and I are trying to find the link between what we have referred to as the Elsik and the Ilcik families.  I have thought we are close. No, we don’t have DNA evidence, but the surnames have merged into Elycsik. STOP. Did you catch it this time? There has been no merger. We still have two distinct surnames: Ilycsik and Ilcisk. What happened to the “y.” and Why did I miss it?
Does the “y” matter? Both families share the Ilcik connection. Right? I just checked Ancestry.com, and a search of Ilcisk, without the “y,” finds hundreds of names that I have not downloaded yet. Ouch.
 
It is 6:23, and I am still up but too tired to continue. I’m going to sleep, and this will have been just a nightmare, not real when I wake up. 😢 I wish.
 
John, IV
 
P.S. I need a sabbatical, a long one.
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Re: Suggestion

Sun 1/31/2021 10:29 PM

John,

It makes sense and should make it easier for people to understand the different spellings.  It’s interesting to me the spelling “Ilcik” on the gravestones of your great grandfather and NY John Elcik’s grandfather.  I questioned at first if there was a connection, and my instinct was right.
 
FYI, I put the copy of your dad and Uncle Richard’s video singing the Nursery Rhyme on a flash drive and gave it to Dan Gamache yesterday.  I’m hoping he can interpret the song and the other one they sang into English.  I haven’t heard anything yet and will let you know when I do.  I think he’s the best and possibly only hope of finding out.
 
Fingers crossed that I’m right,
 
Beth